Conservatives push for nearly unthinkable death penalty ban

[mrjarrell]

At last, there are conservatives who are starting to figure out that the death penalty is nothing more than big government at its worst. Here's hoping it catches on and we can do away with this anachronism.

Conservatives push for nearly unthinkable death penalty ban | Reuters

 

[HoughMade]

I'm conservative in many, many ways and I've been against the death penalty for a long time.

 

[eldirector]

I read that as we spend too much on these low-lifes. Bring back the gallows and be done with it.

 

[Jludo]

I read that as we spend too much on these low-lifes. Bring back the gallows and be done with it.

Bring it all back, we can have public hangings in the town square, keep us entertained.

 

[printcraft]

Yes, the people deserving of the death penalty, like the guy that just raped and murdered the 1 yr old girl last week, can feel safe now.

Sorry....... punishment is deserved. Blah, Blah, Blah......... you're going to hell.... blah blah blah......

 

[indiucky]

Bring it all back, we can have public hangings in the town square, keep us entertained.

[video=youtube;H7Q9ZEdOLSE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7Q9ZEdOLSE[/video]

Trey Parker sure can write songs...Even when a college Senior...Great cow bell solo in this tune BTW...

 

[Kutnupe14]

I like my idea of putting them on a plane flying them to middle east, giving them a month's worth of food, a survival handbook, an rifle, kicking them off, and saying "good luck."

 

[PaulF]

It has never been about whether or not a criminal is deserving of death...we all have that coming.

It has always been about whether or not the government prosecuted and convicted the correct person of the correct crime.

A cage door can be unlocked. A grave cannot be unfilled.

 

[eldirector]

I like my idea of putting them on a plane flying them to middle east, giving them a month's worth of food, a survival handbook, an rifle, kicking them off, and saying "good luck."

So.. found another Australia?

 

[printcraft]

I like my idea of putting them on a plane flying them to middle east, giving them a month's worth of food, a survival handbook, an rifle, kicking them off before the plane lands, and saying "good luck."

FTFY

 

[indiucky]

A cage door can be unlocked. A grave cannot be unfilled.

I know of one...

(Just kidding Paul...Just realized we have not chatted in a while...)

 

[eldirector]

It has never been about whether or not a criminal is deserving of death...we all have that coming.

It has always been about whether or not the government prosecuted and convicted the correct person of the correct crime.

A cage door can be unlocked. A grave cannot be unfilled.

In this case, it seems to be about the money.

If it is about "the correct person", then any cost is worth it.

 

[T.Lex]

I am in favor of having the death penalty "on the table" as a possible punishment.

But, if a state won't provide the resources to do it right (as "right" as we possibly can), then they shouldn't do it at all.

 

[Kutnupe14]

So.. found another Australia?

Well, that's my prison moon colony plan. Apollo Program tech, some training, and blast them off.


But, is there a place we could use as our Australia? I be all for that, so long as going was voluntarily. But if you're on death row, or have life, why wouldn't you want to do it? Middle of nowhere, Alaska?

 

[HoughMade]

....It has always been about whether or not the government prosecuted and convicted the correct person of the correct crime.

A cage door can be unlocked. A grave cannot be unfilled.

In the last about 15 years as I have turned against the death penalty, that's what it is about for me.

 

[PaulF]

I know of one...

(Just kidding Paul...Just realized we have not chatted in a while...)

Ok, you might have got me on that one...

...and happy Easter!

 

[historian]

There are certain crimes that should carry the death penalty. Most of those crimes do not currently carry the death penalty.

Getting it right is of utmost importance. Sadly, the costs of getting it right are not worth it, and, as most of the crimes that should carry the penalty do not have it, I see no point in keeping it.

Then again, all of "justice" in this country is screwed up. If you are a convicted felon, only the Koch brothers empire will hire you, you can bet that the neighborhood grocery won't. If you are convicted of some crimes, you lose all your rights for the rest of your life ("Sex Offender Registries" shouldn't exist. If people are so evil that they can't live near specific areas, they shouldn't be released from prison.). And if you made a stupid mistake and want to get things right, you are so far behind the eight ball that you really don't have any other options but to keep committing crimes.

/rant

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Some people need to be segregated from society. Some need to be segregated from even prison society.

Graves can't be unfilled, but they sure can be filled with prison staff and other inmates.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Silverstein

Thomas Edward Silverstein (born February 4, 1952) is an American convicted murderer. He has been incarcerated continuously since 1977 and has been convicted of four separate murders while imprisoned, one of which was overturned.

 

[eldirector]

Well, that's my prison moon colony plan. Apollo Program tech, some training, and blast them off.


But, is there a place we could use as our Australia? I be all for that, so long as going was voluntarily. But if you're on death row, or have life, why wouldn't you want to do it? Middle of nowhere, Alaska?

Couple of thoughts:
1) If one were to send a bunch of murderers to a lawless island, where they are likely going to just murder each other anyway (or, at least, the chance of survival is fairly low for any number of reasons), why not hang 'em and bury them here? Shipping them off has the same outcome, one is just attempting to dodge responsibility.
2) Well, we DO have several companies and governments wanting to colonize Mars. Be a good test of the technology. If it works, great. If not, well, we learned something. And, in some cases, we could accidentally over-shoot and hit the Sun (oops).

 

[eldirector]

There are certain crimes that should carry the death penalty. Most of those crimes do not currently carry the death penalty.

Getting it right is of utmost importance. Sadly, the costs of getting it right are not worth it, and, as most of the crimes that should carry the penalty do not have it, I see no point in keeping it.

Then again, all of "justice" in this country is screwed up. If you are a convicted felon, only the Koch brothers empire will hire you, you can bet that the neighborhood grocery won't. If you are convicted of some crimes, you lose all your rights for the rest of your life ("Sex Offender Registries" shouldn't exist. If people are so evil that they can't live near specific areas, they shouldn't be released from prison.). And if you made a stupid mistake and want to get things right, you are so far behind the eight ball that you really don't have any other options but to keep committing crimes.

/rant

There ARE reforms I could get behind. The legislature should be spending their time trying to get it right (or better), rather than damage control for when they get it wrong.