Concealed Carry for Soldiers Petiton

[BOTA56]

SIGN IT HERE!!!!!

I think these situations could be rectified or deterred if soldiers were allowed to carry on base.

 

[hoosier21]

Great post, you just beat me to it. Just saw Hickok45 post the petition on Facebook.

 

[Maximinus Thrax]

I hope something can come of this petition. I'm getting tired of seeing people who are more capable of behaving responsibly and taking care of themselves than most of the population being bullied into helplessness.

Great post, you just beat me to it. Just saw Hickok45 post the petition on Facebook.

Been here since Nov. and that's your first post? Welcome to INGO!

 

[mk2ja]

There was already a bill introduced this session dealing with this: HR 3199 is the Safe Military Bases Act.

Link: H.R.3199 - 113th Congress (2013-2014): Safe Military Bases Act | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

Indiana 3's Rep Stutzman is a co-sponsor.

We don't need another bill introduced, we just need everybody to call and support this bill!

 

[HD1911]

Done and forwarded to everyone in My Contact List. This needs to be Fully Supported and Spread like Wildfire....

 

[aaron580]

Why only CC?

 

[HD1911]

don't know but its a step in the right direction. Better that only, than for it to stay the way it is.

 

[45fan]

Why only CC?

The last shooting, and another shooting on the same base is in Texas, and Texas does not have open carry. Something else that might be reasoned into the CC argument for on military installations, open carry would advertise as being "under arms" or on duty, and if you are not actually on duty, concealing the weapon would prevent someone from making that assumption, if the military member is in uniform, but not on duty.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Why only CC?

They shouldn't CC (unless out of uniform). OC for uniformed soldiers. I'm still not sure about a bunch of detail that could make this happen.

 

[ModernGunner]

Let's just get our soldiers back to carrying FIRST, then we can bicker and debate over CC / OC / JFC, eh?

You can blame Clinton for the prohibition.

 

[Roadie]

This Is Why Most Military Personnel Aren?t Armed on Military Bases ? and It?s Not Clinton?s Fault | TheBlaze.com

The Directive says:
“The authorization to carry firearms shall be issued only to qualified personnel when there is a reasonable expectation that life or DoD assets will be jeopardized if firearms are not carried,”

Uhm... hello??

 

[Kutnupe14]

Let's just get our soldiers back to carrying FIRST, then we can bicker and debate over CC / OC / JFC, eh?

You can blame Clinton for the prohibition.

Here's the problem. If we allow them to carry, while in uniform, who picks up the tab for liability? Who pays for training, the weapons, upkeep, and so on. I think to allow this to happen the military will have to revamp quite a bit. If this is going to work, the military is probably going to have to arm everybody, and adopt a policy that prohibits soldiers from wearing uniform when not working; that way they can be allowed to carry as they please when not in uniform, and these ridding the govt of some liability.

I say this because, we all know that soldiers regularly stay in uniform, off-post/duty. They go to bars, strips clubs, restaurants pretty much anywhere. If we started allowing uniformed, armed off-duty soldiers in public, I can imagine the public outcry of "police state!" Some solution needs to be made, because soldiers should be able to defend themselves.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Personally, I say allow all uniformed soldiers to carry, openly, on their particular installation. If off post, they should be forbidden to carry, unless they are working. Soldiers (out of uniform), on post should be able to carry concealed, and off post anyway they choose

 

[Kryptonite]

Stutzman rocks!

There was already a bill introduced this session dealing with this: HR 3199 is the Safe Military Bases Act.

Link: H.R.3199 - 113th Congress (2013-2014): Safe Military Bases Act | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

Indiana 3's Rep Stutzman is a co-sponsor.

We don't need another bill introduced, we just need everybody to call and support this bill!

 

[BiscuitNaBasket]

Signed.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Screw who's responsible or how they carry. Lets just get our soldiers armed. We tried GFZs since 1992, Now its time to arm our soldiers.

 

[HD1911]

Screw who's responsible or how they carry. Lets just get our soldiers armed. We tried GFZs since 1992, Now its time to arm our soldiers.

EXACTLY!!!

 

[Kutnupe14]

EXACTLY!!!

Unfortunately, it's not that simple. You do know that such would allow for the possibility of arming 17 year olds right? There are TONS of social and legal issues to consider.

 

[HD1911]

No I'm fine with 18 and older on post, or hell 21 if need be like anywhere else... I can compromise.

it really is that simple. our Own GOV expects us to go fight wars and die for our own Country, but we're supposed to just be sitting ducks while stateside on Post.... **** that.

 

[j706]

Unfortunately, it's not that simple. You do know that such would allow for the possibility of arming 17 year olds right? There are TONS of social and legal issues to consider.

Valid point. I think it would make sense to let or even require all NCO's and officers to be armed