College Students' opinion of campus carry

[nakinate]

Has any college student ever had an idea worth listening to?

 

[MrJewbagel]

Has any college student ever had an idea worth listening to?

Those who aren't ignorant do.

Source: I'm a college student.

 

[nakinate]

Those who aren't ignorant do.

Source: I'm a college student.

You just discredited your first sentence!

 

[MrJewbagel]

You just discredited your first sentence!

Got me there...

EDIT: I've been around INGO for a little while (viewing more than posting obviously), but I've noticed there's an obvious lack of reaction-gifs compared to other forums around the internet. Is this a site-policy or just something that doesn't happen?

 

[nakinate]

Gifs are more trouble than they're worth in my book.

 

[MrJewbagel]

Gifs are more trouble than they're worth in my book.

Too bad. :/ Adds spice to a rather dull conversation sometimes.

 

[SteveM4A1]

Has any college student ever had an idea worth listening to?

I'd say quite a few, especially the smart ones. But unfortunately, a lot of not-so-smart individuals go to college these days.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

Here is a link to the ridiculous video that we're supposed to watch to understand why it's bad for students to carry on campus.

Can You Defend Yourself with a Gun? | Video - ABC News

The video is clearly skewed to convince people that campus carry is bad. I would say that most people that would carry a gun on campus have actually practiced their draw from concealment enough times where their gun wouldn't get caught in their shirt. They also wouldn't have a mask obscuring their vision or bulky gloves on.

If you watch the full video it's skewed even worse than you see in this one. The "shooter" knew exactly who and where the person with a gun was and immediately targeted them after "shooting" the teacher. Even a trained and experienced gun carrier would have had a very difficult if not almost impossible time how it was set up. About the only way a person could have "won" is if they started the draw the instant the guy walked through the door. And even with all that, at least one person got a hit in.

 

[Dirtebiker]

Ironically, I don't think college kids are the sharpest tools in the shed.

Compared to...?

 

[jbombelli]

Compared to...?

The other tools in the shed?

 

[Dean C.]

I think the people who carry on campus will carry. No one will probably ever know they carry but they do. I guarantee you if god forbid a school shooting does occur every one of the students who said they don't think they should be allowed to carry at school will thank god if a responsible classmate pulls out a firearm and defends his classmates.

That being said I have a good buddy who goes to Vincennes University every day he carries a ruger LCP .380 in his back pocket. He has never had a negligent discharge let alone anyone actually see he has a gun on his person. But even though he carries responsibly it is still against school rules to have a firearm on campus as stated in their rulebook http://www.vinu.edu/sites/vinu.edu/files/VU_Standards_of_Student_Behavior(1).pdf

I am for the carry of firearms on college campuses but I feel they must be carried in a concealed fashion (as to not distract the sheeple in the classroom). I will not comment on my carrying habits as I am currently enrolled in an Indiana university.

 

[IUprof]

Here is a link to the ridiculous video that we're supposed to watch to understand why it's bad for students to carry on campus.

Can You Defend Yourself with a Gun? | Video - ABC News

The video is clearly skewed to convince people that campus carry is bad. I would say that most people that would carry a gun on campus have actually practiced their draw from concealment enough times where their gun wouldn't get caught in their shirt. They also wouldn't have a mask obscuring their vision or bulky gloves on.

I saw this years ago when it first aired. It is definitely skewed to those with very little training or practice. Same old lame argument against carrying on campus!

 

[drillsgt]

I saw this years ago when it first aired. It is definitely skewed to those with very little training or practice. Same old lame argument against carrying on campus!

They were definitely set up for failure. I'd like to reproduce this, would make for an interesting IRB submission.

 

[308offate]

What would stop someone from carrying on campus if they never told anyone and were responsible? a sign that says thats a no no

 

[Six Forty-Two]

I wonder how a "trained" LEO would react in the same scenario as the video.

 

[jamil]

I'd like to see them redo the experiment, but this time the bad guy doesn't get to know in advance which students to shoot, and the students should have a realistic mix of trained and untrained CC'ers.

 

[actaeon277]

I'd like to see them redo the experiment, but this time the bad guy doesn't get to know in advance which students to shoot, and the students should have a realistic mix of trained and untrained CC'ers.

Here's another exercise..

No one in the class is armed, or the armed person gets killed.
What about the other classes?
In another class, everyone can get ready. You have a gun, sit and wait (or go look, whatever). If you sit, and a person comes in the class, raises a weapon, and looks like they're going to fire........

Or, you could sit there and throw pencils I guess.

 

[David D]

Here's another exercise..

No one in the class is armed, or the armed person gets killed.
What about the other classes?
In another class, everyone can get ready. You have a gun, sit and wait (or go look, whatever). If you sit, and a person comes in the class, raises a weapon, and looks like they're going to fire........

Or, you could sit there and throw pencils I guess.

Excellent point! I'm disappointed that the thought of another classroom hadn't crossed my mind while reading the posts in this thread.

 

[futurefrogman]

I felt like I was reading something written in 7th grade.

Unfortunately, I've found that to be the case with the vast majority of college students. I went from taking AP English and Composition in High School to talking an English 102 type class in college and was horrified by most of the papers I was proof reading; a couple were substancially worse than those above too. Considering that most of them passed I probably should have tried to test out of all my English classes...

 

[SteveM4A1]

There are plenty of colleges where these poor English skills are not the norm. Stop using bad examples. I have attended 3 different colleges, and while the norm at the public universities was very poor, I read plenty that were worthy for peer review in journals.