Classifieds and unrealistic people.

[williamrights]

I find it hilarious that you are whining about someone asking $1000 for a Nagant in the same breath that you are trying to justify your own self selling .22 for ridiculous prices. The "Capitalism" argument works for me when supply and demand affects prices across the board, from manufacture to retail and then passed on to the buyer. When the ONLY group affected is the buyer it is GOUGING plain and simple. All you guys screaming Capitalism to try and justify your own selfish and unethical actions against fellow sportsman need to go back to school before subjecting us to your sanctimonious diatribes on supply and demand.

How exactly charging the going rate unethical. You only hear that argument when you do not get in when the price is right. Is it unethical to charge 30 an ounce for silver just because you got it for 6.

 

[DanO]

I cannot believe this thread is going on. William is trying to make money. We all like to make money. If you feel like it should be done "outside" the INGO family, then live by that rule.

I personally would not sell the ammo at that price on here, because I want to deal with people here for years to come. SOme people on here would see that as gouging (not me) and I want a reputation that encourages people to deal with me. Plus, I'm down to only 7K in .22lr and it's starting to worry me....

But either way, William stop trying to justify what you did, it is what it is. Not wrong or right, just what it is. The same with those castigating William. Move on and find some ammo at a reasonable (to you) price.

 

[williamrights]

Glad it's you and not me....

I saw the add also and being the desired location of the FTF is in my neck of the woods, I did for a BRIEF moment think about sending him a PM and seeing if he would give a fair trade value for any other ammo, P-mags, silver, or any other hard to find things.... Glad I didn't or I would be the subject of this thread.

If you offered a legit trade you would not. If you emailed and said yeah I will trade junk silver it is 30 an ounce how about 2 for 1 that is legit and I would not have said oh come on silver was only $6 an ounce 6 years ago how about 10 to 1. 9mm is 30 a box right now I would not have said oh come on 2 years ago it was only 10 so how about that. I assume you would not have said well It is going for $100 on gunbroker while not showing one listing that justified it.

 

[williamrights]

I will probably just cease posting items on here as a good deal do not want to face reality. It is as if they want to be insulated. I am getting my price on Gunbroker and locally and thought I would as a courtesy list it here. I sold a gun a month ago for a huge profit and when another ingoer I knew asked why I had not listed it here cause he would have bought it I told him cause I did not want to deal with this kind of crap. Alot of people just want ammo no matter what and will pay. When I need a product I am just happy it is available. I do not ask anyone to do my any favor by selling me something at less than the replacement price. I want one of the people on here that say well we should all stick together sell me a machine gun for the 1970's price or sell me some silver rounds for $6 or some 9mm for $10 a box. I want another Nagant I am not asking someone to sell it to me for $79 cause we are all in this together. I would apprciate legit offers or just pass it by. This other person would not legitimately start an add here offering a Nagant for $1000 so why mess with my add. I will not be back to this thread hell I may not be back to INGO because I like people who live in the real world.

 

[wagyu52]

What i am asking is the going rate and it is justifiable it can be checked. I got a sarcastic reply made up numbers. Check gunbroker and bricks are going for the rate I am asking. I am getting it locally. I would like to see one normal Nagant on Gunbroker as he states at the $1000.

The price you put on your ammo is your choice. I went to Big R this weekend a bought a brick of blazer .22 for $25, going rate is what ever the buyer is willing to pay. That being said you should get all you can out of what you want to sell. What I don't understand is why do you have a problem with someone else trying to do the same? Why should he justify his asking price? No one is forcing you to trade a simple no thank you would suffice.

 

[gregkl]

If you offered a legit trade you would not. If you emailed and said yeah I will trade junk silver it is 30 an ounce how about 2 for 1 that is legit and I would not have said oh come on silver was only $6 an ounce 6 years ago how about 10 to 1. 9mm is 30 a box right now I would not have said oh come on 2 years ago it was only 10 so how about that. I assume you would not have said well It is going for $100 on gunbroker while not showing one listing that justified it.

Let's see: recent purchases of 9mm; 100 round WWB=$24. Tula 50 round=$10.34. Federal 50 round=$13.47.

People really should shop around a little and stop paying $30 for a box.

 

[wagyu52]

I will probably just cease posting items on here as a good deal do not want to face reality. It is as if they want to be insulated. I am getting my price on Gunbroker and locally and thought I would as a courtesy list it here. I sold a gun a month ago for a huge profit and when another ingoer I knew asked why I had not listed it here cause he would have bought it I told him cause I did not want to deal with this kind of crap. Alot of people just want ammo no matter what and will pay. When I need a product I am just happy it is available. I do not ask anyone to do my any favor by selling me something at less than the replacement price. I want one of the people on here that say well we should all stick together sell me a machine gun for the 1970's price or sell me some silver rounds for $6 or some 9mm for $10 a box. I want another Nagant I am not asking someone to sell it to me for $79 cause we are all in this together. I would apprciate legit offers or just pass it by. This other person would not legitimately start an add here offering a Nagant for $1000 so why mess with my add. I will not be back to this thread hell I may not be back to INGO because I like people who live in the real world.

You may want to get a thicker skin if you are going to ask 3X what ammo was 6 months ago. Almost nothing is more controversial right now as the price of ammo and guns.

 

[cbseniour]

Some people will think you are gouging but in truth the basic fact remains that the value of any item it the amount a willing buyer and a willing seller can agree on.
In this area you have an advantage because you are holding a commodity many want. If a potential buyer doesn't want to pay a price you can both agree on then kiss him goodbye and move on.
On the other hand of the deal you can not blame a potential buyer for trying to talk you down on your price that is part of the process of "can agree upon"

 

[bwframe]

I think folks should pay closer attention to who they buy from and sell to. This isn't a classified/auction/sales sight. That is just a perk of those discussing Hoosier gun ownership and everything related.

If you fund those whose only interest is to make money from INGO members, then that is what we will have. More and more threads full of whiners who have to work harder than they feel necessary/normal to sell to INGOers who are naive enough to pay the inflated price.

Support the whiners and there will be more. They wouldn't be whining if things were going their way. If they can sell their stuff for better prices on Gunbroker, then that is where they should be.

It is within INGO rules to make an honest offer in the classifieds, correct?

 

[GBuck]

Me thinks people don't really understand the term "supply and demand" that has been thrown around so much.


Also, comparing a 1970s price on a MG vs today and .22 ammo prices 6 months ago vs today is lunacy and not even close to adult logic.

Some people try to come to logical conclusions and turn around bad situations... Others try to take advantage of others and further the "hysteria". It really is that simple.

 

[SaintsNSinners]

I can kind of understand it.. Prices today are a bit higher than they were six months ago...

6 months ago 2 of item X = 1 of item Y
Now it Takes 4 of Item X to = 1 of item Y

 

[Birds Away]

Let me see if I get the gist of this thread:

My outrageous price is because I say so.

His outrageous price is unfair

Supply and demand is when the profit is mine.

Supply and demand when that money comes out of my pocket.

 

[lucky4034]

I agree with your original post... but...

Just as gold used to be $400 no one will sell it to you now for that because supply and demand says it is around $1600. If you

... this isn't entirely correct as you have represented it. The supply and demand of gold hasn't changed all that much. The shift in "price" is a result of the supply and demand of the actual dollar bill itself.

 

[ilikeguns]

How exactly charging the going rate unethical. You only hear that argument when you do not get in when the price is right. Is it unethical to charge 30 an ounce for silver just because you got it for 6.

Because it is only the "going rate" because of people like you who stand in line to buy it all up at real prices so no one else can, and then sell it for stupid prices because there is a "shortage". Artificial shortages created by prospectors intent on making a quick buck is not supply and demand. It is gouging plain and simple. You can do what you want and sell what you want at the prices you want. That's your right. Just don't try to justify it as a good thing to do and expect people to respect you. Worlds full of people just looking for a sucker. Doesn't mean I have to like 'em.

 

[ShootinDave]

Freedom=charge what you want,pay if you want, buy, dont buy-whatever.

It looks like some would happier if the INGO classifieds were 'Regulated'

 

[Bunnykid68]

I really wish the government would step in and set the price on ammo so it would be fair for all.

 

[bwframe]

I guess some would have us refrain from discussion of ammo and gun pricing?
NO MORE pricing discussion! It hurts feelings...

 

[SaintsNSinners]

Fix the price loophole?



purple implied

 

[dross]

I have some money.

You have something to sell.

We can't agree on a price.

We go our separate ways.

How can any reasonable person see something evil, or unethical or immoral or have any negative judgment on the above exchange? I really don't understand how some people think.

It shows just how insidious is socialism, the way it has crept into men's hearts.

 

[hornadylnl]

I have some money.

You have something to sell.

We can't agree on a price.

We go our separate ways.

How can any reasonable person see something evil, or unethical or immoral or have any negative judgment on the above exchange? I really don't understand how some people think.

It shows just how insidious is socialism, the way it has crept into men's hearts.

It's only discussion!