City statutes/ordinances?

[tskin]

Does anyone know if there is a list somewhere that shows what statutes or ordinances each city has regarding concealed carry? I noticed on another thread someone mentioned that you can't conceal carry in Speedway. It'd be nice to just look down a list of cities in alphabetical order & see if they have certain laws that one should avoid?

 

[quiggly]

Municipal Code Corporation

This site has some cities. Just need to keep goggling and you will find them.

 

[cosermann]

It would be great if we in Indiana would just go ahead and retroactively preempt everything at the state level.

 

[kludge]

Ohio did it, and now we need to catch up.

 

[kludge]

Avoid South Bend like the plague.

http://www.municode.com/resources/gateway.asp?pid=13974&sid=14

 

[Bill of Rights]

It would be great if we in Indiana would just go ahead and retroactively preempt everything at the state level.

That's the plan. Rep. Jackie Walorski is introducing that this next term.

Blessings,
B

 

[sundogg]

What do you mean about South Bend? I live in the area and have never had a problem carring in South Bend. Bill

 

[kludge]

A standard capacity magazine is an "assault weapon."

(b) Assault Weapons shall mean and include:

(1) Any center fire rifle with automatic action or semi-automatic action or revolving cylinder weapon, or carbine which accepts a detachable magazine with a capacity of over fifteen (15) rounds;

(2) Any semiautomatic shotgun with a magazine capacity of more than nine (9) rounds;

(3) Firearms as defined in IC 35-47-1-5, which have threads, lugs, or other characteristics which are designed to facilitate the direct attachment of a silencer, bayonet, grenade launcher, flash suppressor, or folding stock to the firearm; and

(4) Any part or combination of parts designed to facilitate the attachment of a silencer, bayonet, grenade launcher, flash suppressor, or folding stock to a firearm; and

(5) A detachable magazine, drum, belt, feed strip, or similar device which has a capacity of, or can be readily restored or converted to accept more than fifteen (15) rounds of ammunition; and

(6) Any combination of parts which are designed and intended solely and exclusively for assembling a firearm defined to be an assault weapon as defined above, or from which an assault weapon could be assembled into an operable assault weapon if such parts are located in the possession or under the control of one (l) person.

What that also means is that if a semi-auto hangun magazine comes with one of those special low-capacity magazines, and you can go online and buy parts and replace the oversized follower with a standard follower, then it also becomes an "assault weapon" even if you have no intention of doing so...

So... you have to be very careful about what gun you carry to South Bend.

Sec. 13-97. Restrictions on the possession and manufacturing of assault weapons.
(a) No person may "manufacture" (quotes mine) any assault weapon, as defined herein, within the City of South Bend.

(b) No person may possess any loaded assault weapon, as defined herein, within the City of South Bend, except as specifically provided herein.

(c) No person may manufacture or possess any magazine with a capacity of more than fifteen (15) rounds for assault weapons within the City of South Bend, except as specifically provided herein.

(Ord. No. 8468-94, § 1, 2-21-94)

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Sec. 13-98. Requirements for transporting and possessing unloaded assault weapons.
(a) Any person who owns any assault weapon as defined herein must:

(1) Keep a flag safety (i.e., plastic tie or chamber plug) properly in place so that the chamber is plugged resulting in the firing pin being blocked at all times;

(2) Keep said assault weapon unloaded at all times; and

(3) Keep said assault weapon in a gun slip, glove, or case so that it is inoperable and secured at all times with a gun tie or padlock;

except when using such weapon at a City licensed shooting or firing range as specifically provided herein.

(b) Any person who owns any assault weapon must keep all of its ammunition and magazines separate from the assault weapon, and in a secured container, except as specifically provided herein.

(Ord. No. 8468-94, § 1, 2-21-94)

Sec. 13-99. Penalties; confiscation and destruction of assault weapons.(a) Any person who violates any of the provisions of this Division shall be fined a minimum of two hundred and fifty dollars ($250.00) and up to a maximum of two thousand five hundred dollars ($2,500.00) for each and every violation.

(b) The owner of an assault weapon found with a seated magazine shall be fined two hundred fifty dollars ($250.00), and if a round is chambered an additional one hundred dollars ($100.00) shall be assessed for each round in the chamber and the magazine.

(c) Any loaded assault weapon or weapons, and/or any magazine with a capacity of more than fifteen (15) rounds found in violation of this division shall be seized and confiscated.

(d) Additionally, any person found in violation of this division shall be required to attend and successfully complete a minimum of two (2) educational seminars on firearms safety and perform a minimum of twenty (20) hours of community service for each violation. Said seminars shall be conducted by the South Bend Police Department and/or the City's duly authorized agent.

(e) Penalties up to a total of two thousand five hundred dollars ($2,500.00) for all citations, seminar fees and fines may be imposed upon an adult when found in violation of this division for each and every violation.

(Ord. No. 8468-94, § 1, 2-21-94)

Secs. 13-100, 13-101. Reserved.

So if you posses a magazine that can be "converted" to 17 rounds and you have it "loaded" and you have it out of its case not locked up, not have a chamber plug in place... well that's 4 x $2500 = $10,000 for "carrying" a handgun in South Bend plus $250 for a seated magazine and $100 for every round in the chamber and magazine.

Oh, and then they take your gun and destroy it.

And get this:

Sec. 13-104. Parent and legal guardian required to properly store firearms/ammunition; dealers to conspicuously display signs.
(a) No person, including but not limited to parent(s) or legal guardian(s), shall store, leave, or give a loaded or unloaded firearm(s) and ammunition used by such firearm(s) in any place where the person knows, or reasonably should know based on the totality of the circumstances, that a minor is able to gain access to such firearm(s) and/or ammunition.

(b) All persons purchasing firearm(s) within the city, must provide written proof that he or she has successfully completed a National Rifle Association (or comparable agency) firearms safety instruction program on the proper use and storage of such firearm(s). Written proof of such training must be turned into the front desk of the South Bend Police Department within sixty (60) days from the date of said purchase.

(c) Any licensed firearm dealer doing business in the city must conspicuously post, at every purchase counter in every store, shop, or sales outlet, signs with the following warning in block letters not less than one (1) inch in height:

"IT IS A VIOLATION OF CITY OF SOUTH BEND CODE § 13-100 TO STORE OR LEAVE A FIREARM AND AMMUNITION WHERE CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF EIGHTEEN (18) YEARS OF AGE CAN OBTAIN ACCESS."

"ALL PERSONS PURCHASING FIREARMS ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE TO THE SOUTH BEND POLICE DEPARTMENT WRITTEN PROOF OF SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETING AN APPROVED FIREARMS SAFETY INSTRUCTION SESSION ON THE PROPER USE AND STORAGE OF SUCH FIREARMS WITHIN SIXTY (60) DAYS OF DATE OF PURCHASE."

Home Rule stinks. Just ask Ohio. God bless 'em for fighting the blissninnies and prevailing... we need to get on the bandwagon when this legislation comes up again.

 

[sundogg]

Most of these laws were never passed. The ones that were passed expiried with Clintons crime bill. I have been buying guns in South Bend with no problem. Bill

 

[agentl074]

South Bend is still in the State of Indiana though correct? Why wouldnt Indiana firearms law trump municipal firearms law? I am no lawyer - I am a learner LOL. There is nothing in the Indiana Constitution that restricts firearm capacity.

 

[AFA1CY]

And there is nothing in the Indiana Constitution about LTCH either. The IC premption only covers ordinances passed after the aforementioned date.

 

[dclaarjr]

We always had preemption in Ohio. Once we got concealed carry, we just had to take it to the Supreme Court to get it recognized.

Now we are having trouble getting the state to follow the laws they passed.

BTW: If in Ohio and you stop at a rest area that has a sign, you can ignore it. We can now carry in Government buildings that are primarily used as a rest facility, shelter, and for parking. We are just trying to get the signs down.

 

[Cwood]

We always had preemption in Ohio. Once we got concealed carry, we just had to take it to the Supreme Court to get it recognized.

Now we are having trouble getting the state to follow the laws they passed.

BTW: If in Ohio and you stop at a rest area that has a sign, you can ignore it. We can now carry in Government buildings that are primarily used as a rest facility, shelter, and for parking. We are just trying to get the signs down.

Its now legal to carry at the rest stops along the Ohio Toll Road?

If that is the case, that is great news!

 

[kludge]

LOL, it doesn't matter, Ohio doesn't recognize my IN license.

Keep up the good fight. When I lived there not even off duty police officers could carry.

 

[Cwood]

LOL, it doesn't matter, Ohio doesn't recognize my IN license.

Keep up the good fight. When I lived there not even off duty police officers could carry.

True, but they do recognize my Utah permit.

 

[xzarian]

Can anyone direct me to South Bends current laws? I can't seem to find anything. From some of the posts here you cant even own AR mags here

 

[AFA1CY]

http://www.municode.com/Resources/gateway.asp?pid=13974&sid=14

 

[kludge]

...then put "firearm" in the search box

 

[AFA1CY]

I always search with the following:

weapon
weapons
gun
guns
handgun
handguns
firearm
firearms

 

[xzarian]

So I can not assemble an AR or have 30 rnd mags? I mean you can buy them in South Bend. I don't get it. And these laws are current?