Chicago Sun-Times: Only Downstate IL Applying for CCW

[Kirk Freeman]

In a stunning display of provincialism, the Chicago Sun-Times attempts to reassure North LaSalle Street that guns are only for those non-Chicago people.

In Chicago "downstate" means "places other than Cook County". You will often find references to "downstate Indiana" for places such as Fort Wayne or Lafayette.

Conceal carry permits ? It?s a Downstate, collar county thing - Chicago Sun-Times

 

[rockhopper46038]

Chicago still has it's head in the sand. Or somewhere.

 

[KLB]

I would bet that most people do not even realize that they can now apply for a license. Plus the cost is pretty high, which will keep a lot of people from being able to apply.

 

[cobber]

Just proves that all the folks with common sense had the, erm, common sense to leave Chitown years ago. The remainder are happy living on the police-state plantation, with Uncle Rahm to look out for them...

One commenter stated that staying out of Chicago will keep you safer than living there with your CCW. That's about right!


The cost of the application is pretty blatantly aimed at the poor. Keep them either disarmed, or illegally armed, and then scream when they're arrested for carrying without a permit.

 

[JeremiahJohnson]

“But in Cook County, when we did polling, people don’t want concealed-carry,” she said. “The majority of voters weren’t in support of it. It goes to what we knew all along. It’s not on the top of the list. They don’t think carrying a gun will make them safer.”


Really? What poll? Where can I look at the numbers for myself? Who did you call? According to Phelps and people I know in Chicago they're still waiting to see how it pans out. Chicago will still find a way to make it illegal, so why would they waste their money and open themselves for a visit from the Po-Po? State your friggin' source - what poll? Who did you call? What questions did you ask?

 

[JeremiahJohnson]

By contrast, Lake County - borders Cook County to the south - is one of the highest in population AND in % applications...why is that? Why is Chicago so different than Lake county?

 

[cedartop]

I would bet that most people do not even realize that they can now apply for a license. Plus the cost is pretty high, which will keep a lot of people from being able to apply.

What is the cost?

 

[Bunnykid68]

What is the cost?

This is what I have been wondering. Even a couple hundred bucks could keep some from getting it.

 

[JeremiahJohnson]

This is what I have been wondering. Even a couple hundred bucks could keep some from getting it.

Illinois Concealed Carry Permit Information

The cost for a resident is $150, non-resident is $300.

16 hours of training also required - probably a couple hundred bucks. Think the cost factors in for the poor urbanites?

 

[Bunnykid68]

Illinois Concealed Carry Permit Information

The cost for a resident is $150, non-resident is $300.

16 hours of training also required - probably a couple hundred bucks. Think the cost factors in for the poor urbanites?

Probably no more than the 16 hours of training that you may have to travel hours away to get.

 

[cedartop]

That isn't a lot different from MI cost wise. About the same training is required and our cost is $105.

 

[Captain Morgan]

Hell, Chicagoans probably figure that since they can't carry on busses, trains, inside the stations of such, and in all the other areas they're most likely to NEED the gun, then why even waste the money to get the permit. Most of them would just have to leave the gun at home due to all the damn restrictions, so it's pointless for them to even have a permit to carry it.

 

[Birds Away]

They think only the bumpkins living down in the corn are crazy enough to want a scary gun around.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Lake County - borders Cook County to the south

Lake County is north of Cook County.

 

[TTravis]

I have a cousin who lives in IL and getting his permit. He took classes last weekend. I'll report back his experience.

 

[SteveM4A1]

good lord read some of the comments. I honestly cannot believe how ignorant some people are. I mean, I was taught about outliers in statistics, but dang...

 

[Kirk Freeman]

From this article we know:

1. Our enemy is provincial. They know nothing outside their bubble. They do not travel and are intellectually lazy and not well-read.

2. Our enemy does not understand math.

3. Our enemy does not understand economics about how government creates barriers to entry and how it impacts human action.

4. Our enemy is completely ignorant about firearms.

Know yourself and know your enemy and we shall will 10,000 battles.

Sun Zi, paraphrased.

 

[actaeon277]

I would bet that most people do not even realize that they can now apply for a license. Plus the cost is pretty high, which will keep a lot of people from being able to apply.

Illinois Concealed Carry Permit Information

The cost for a resident is $150, non-resident is $300.

16 hours of training also required - probably a couple hundred bucks. Think the cost factors in for the poor urbanites?

Probably no more than the 16 hours of training that you may have to travel hours away to get.

Hell, Chicagoans probably figure that since they can't carry on busses, trains, inside the stations of such, and in all the other areas they're most likely to NEED the gun, then why even waste the money to get the permit. Most of them would just have to leave the gun at home due to all the damn restrictions, so it's pointless for them to even have a permit to carry it.

To me, it all adds up as discrimination against the poor.

 

[Mark 1911]

Typical anti-gun spin from a typical anti-gun rag. At least they are consistent, even if consistently unbelievable!

 

[Mark 1911]

To me, it all adds up as discrimination against the poor.

Totally agree, the poor can't afford those prices. But at those prices, there's a lot of folks making good money who would feel priced out as well. I would think prices in that range are unreasonable, and as such, an infringement.