My wife and I frequent the casino in Anderson. I always carry to the casino but leave it in the truck (not going to do me any good if we get hit on the way out). Does anyone know what the laws are for ccing in a casino. I have seen very little for the Riverboats but not sure about land locked facilities.
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Weapons on Riverboats
Rule 7. Weapons
68 IAC 1-7-1 Weapons on the riverboat
Authority: IC 4-33-4-1; IC 4-33-4-2; IC 4-33-4-3
Affected: IC 4-33-8; IC 35-41-1-17
Sec. 1. (a) The following definitions apply throughout this rule:
(1) "Federal enforcement officer" has the meaning set forth in 5 U.S.C. 8331 or IC 35-41-1-17,
or both.
(2) "Law enforcement officer" has the meaning set forth in IC 35-41-1-17.
(3) "Security personnel" means an employee of the riverboat licensee or a supplier licensee who:
(A) holds the appropriate level of occupational license under IC 4-33-8 and 68 IAC 2-3; and
(B) is employed in the riverboat licensee's security department or by a supplier licensee that
contractually provides security services to a riverboat licensee.
(b) No individual other than an enforcement agent shall carry a weapon on board the riverboat. A
law enforcement officer or a federal enforcement officer:
(1) whose sole purpose for being on the riverboat is the performance of official duties; and
(2) who has advised the enforcement agent or the commission that the officer will be on board
the riverboat; shall be allowed to carry a weapon on board the riverboat.
(c) The riverboat licensee shall post a sign in a prominent place at the point of passenger ingress
stating, "No weapons are allowed beyond this point. Failure to comply with this rule may result
in the immediate removal from the riverboat, immediate detention by security personnel, the
imposition of civil penalties, or exclusion under IC 4-33.".
(d) The riverboat licensee shall provide a secure place to which patrons do not have access to
store weapons checked by:
(1) patrons;
(2) off duty law enforcement officers; or
(3) off duty federal enforcement officers.
(e) Security personnel may carry a weapon on board the riverboat during times that patrons are
not present.
(Indiana Gaming Commission; 68 IAC 1-7-1; filed Jun 23, 1995, 2:30 p.m.: 18 IR 2649;
readopted filed Oct 15, 2001, 4:34 p.m.: 25 IR 898; filed Dec
18, 2006, 1:16 p.m.: 20070117-IR-068060190FRA)
Weapons on Riverboats
Rule 7. Weapons
68 IAC 1-7-1 Weapons on the riverboat
Authority: IC 4-33-4-1; IC 4-33-4-2; IC 4-33-4-3
Affected: IC 4-33-8; IC 35-41-1-17
Sec. 1. (a) The following definitions apply throughout this rule:
(1) "Federal enforcement officer" has the meaning set forth in 5 U.S.C. 8331 or IC 35-41-1-17,
or both.
(2) "Law enforcement officer" has the meaning set forth in IC 35-41-1-17.
(3) "Security personnel" means an employee of the riverboat licensee or a supplier licensee who:
(A) holds the appropriate level of occupational license under IC 4-33-8 and 68 IAC 2-3; and
(B) is employed in the riverboat licensee's security department or by a supplier licensee that
contractually provides security services to a riverboat licensee.
(b) No individual other than an enforcement agent shall carry a weapon on board the riverboat. A
law enforcement officer or a federal enforcement officer:
(1) whose sole purpose for being on the riverboat is the performance of official duties; and
(2) who has advised the enforcement agent or the commission that the officer will be on board
the riverboat; shall be allowed to carry a weapon on board the riverboat.
(c) The riverboat licensee shall post a sign in a prominent place at the point of passenger ingress
stating, "No weapons are allowed beyond this point. Failure to comply with this rule may result
in the immediate removal from the riverboat, immediate detention by security personnel, the
imposition of civil penalties, or exclusion under IC 4-33.".
(d) The riverboat licensee shall provide a secure place to which patrons do not have access to
store weapons checked by:
(1) patrons;
(2) off duty law enforcement officers; or
(3) off duty federal enforcement officers.
(e) Security personnel may carry a weapon on board the riverboat during times that patrons are
not present.
(Indiana Gaming Commission; 68 IAC 1-7-1; filed Jun 23, 1995, 2:30 p.m.: 18 IR 2649;
readopted filed Oct 15, 2001, 4:34 p.m.: 25 IR 898; filed Dec
18, 2006, 1:16 p.m.: 20070117-IR-068060190FRA)
minuteman32
Expert
Unless I missed it, I don't see what the penalty is for carrying anyway, if one were so inclined to.
dice dealer
Master
In the casino i work in only the IGC ( indiana gaming commision ) is allowed to carry ..
But they do provide a gun locker at the entrance for any customer who may be CC ing to check the weapon in ....
But they do provide a gun locker at the entrance for any customer who may be CC ing to check the weapon in ....
Timjoebillybob
Grandmaster
- Feb 27, 2009
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(c) The riverboat licensee shall post a sign in a prominent place at the point of passenger ingress
stating, "No weapons are allowed beyond this point. Failure to comply with this rule may result
in the immediate removal from the riverboat, immediate detention by security personnel, the
imposition of civil penalties, or exclusion under IC 4-33.".
So you can be removed, "detained", I can't find what the civil penalties are, And exclusion from what I tell means you can be banned from all riverboats under the jurisdiction of this code.
The term river boat and casiono in indiana are the same. If caught ccing in a casino you will be most likely detained by IGC agents the local Leo's will be called. The result will be banning from all casinos in indiana and the loss of your licence, and possibly fines. That is from a security supv. at one of the river boats
Timjoebillybob
Grandmaster
- Feb 27, 2009
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No offense to the supv you talked to but I worked for a few years at two of the casinos in Lake Co. and large percentage of the security including some of the supv didn't know there @ss from a hole in the ground there were a few that were off duty/retired police but the majority were joe schmoes hired off the street.
Until recently the only casinos in Indiana were riverboats. There were some slot machines at various locations, but not until recntly were they expanded.
I do not know for sure, but if I had to guess as to why they would say there were one in the same is because they once were the only casinos.
I do not know for sure, but if I had to guess as to why they would say there were one in the same is because they once were the only casinos.
The IC codes stated are correct. There is a distinction in the state of Indiana between Riverboat Casinos and Horse Tracks with Electronic Gaming. There is a huge difference in the eyes of the law and the legislature. Riverboats have certain liberties and restricions that Horse Tracks do not. This state has a number of River Boats and they are listed as being a no go under IC, However this state also has two Horse Tracks and nothing is said. Take that as you will. All businesses in this state do resever the right to post what ever restrictions on their clientel that they wish because they are private businesses. Horsetracks with Electronic Gaming however do have at least 2 Armed IGC officers at them at all times. LEO are not always familiar with the laws that they are to enforce (malpractice). Talk to your lawyer about this and get his take. From my research, conversations, and personal interpretation : concealed means concealed, if not then you will more than likely be asked to the "Interview room" (yes it exists) where you will have an intersting conversation with IGC. You could possibly be barred from THAT specific facility, and if you refuse to leave you might be arrested for trespassing. The only offence that seems to be valid here is a Pissing Off A Cop charge.
Now consider this, Both Indiana Live and Hoosier Park have by law two Armed State Gaming officers on duty at all times. They are plain clothes but are not hard to spot if you are looking for them. There are also numerous security officers (however they are not allowed to touch customers), and the majority of the Security Supervisors and Managers are Ex LEO. Do you think that you need your firearm with you while you are looking at the blinking light and hitting a button? If you are the type of person that is content with allowing security both private and tax payer funded handle the situation in that tiny facility then leave it in the truck, if however you prefer to take care of yourself then carry, but this is not the place to OC or to try to "Educate the sheeples". This is about your security and your comfort levels. And like any other situation if you do decide to carry Do not do anything stupid. We are talking about building that have 2000 gaming seats, several feature bars, concerts, horse racing, seat service of alcohol, facial recognition survailance, and lots of money moving through it at all times. This is the example of the place that you do not want to "Spook the Horses" in any way.
Now consider this, Both Indiana Live and Hoosier Park have by law two Armed State Gaming officers on duty at all times. They are plain clothes but are not hard to spot if you are looking for them. There are also numerous security officers (however they are not allowed to touch customers), and the majority of the Security Supervisors and Managers are Ex LEO. Do you think that you need your firearm with you while you are looking at the blinking light and hitting a button? If you are the type of person that is content with allowing security both private and tax payer funded handle the situation in that tiny facility then leave it in the truck, if however you prefer to take care of yourself then carry, but this is not the place to OC or to try to "Educate the sheeples". This is about your security and your comfort levels. And like any other situation if you do decide to carry Do not do anything stupid. We are talking about building that have 2000 gaming seats, several feature bars, concerts, horse racing, seat service of alcohol, facial recognition survailance, and lots of money moving through it at all times. This is the example of the place that you do not want to "Spook the Horses" in any way.
minuteman32
Expert
I guess I'll just go to Vegas!
If IN casinos don't want me there while I'm packing, I'll go to casions that don't care. Not like I go often anyway.
If IN casinos don't want me there while I'm packing, I'll go to casions that don't care. Not like I go often anyway.
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