Can't come in, You have a Howitzer on you

[Bunnykid68]

I was just on a different thread saying I had never heard of someone on INGO try to organize an OC event on private property where we were allowed to and then you post this...

What on earth would an OC event do besides get the cops called anyone there escorted from the property or worse?

The sidewalk out front then silly.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

The sidewalk out front then silly.

What are we the INGO union now?

 

[Bunnykid68]

What are we the INGO union now?

Well, yeah, kinda. You dont remember my old sig line? IBIP

 

[Titanium_Frost]

RTW baby. Daniels has my back

 

[powerstrokin]

Now the story goes on. I called and asked to speak with the owner and was told he would be in the store in 10 minutes, so I live just around the block from there so I drive down to the station only to be met at the door by Joe jack a$s. He says I must lift up my shirt prior to entering the store.
That's gone to far now. The owner is there but I can speak with him as long as I am not carrying!! Lift up your shirt or leave.... THAT'S GONE TO FAR.. Good bye. I do not need to spend my time and money in such a place. No more from me on this subject. I hope no one faces this (EVER) how bad can it get? Thanks for letting me rant.

Just show up with no gun and hand out the "No gun=No $" card to the owner. Maybe just maybe, he isn't aware of his employee's shenanigans.

 

[KG1]

What are we the INGO union now?

Yes. We're the Local of Fake Retired LEOs.

 

[KG1]

Now the story goes on. I called and asked to speak with the owner and was told he would be in the store in 10 minutes, so I live just around the block from there so I drive down to the station only to be met at the door by Joe jack a$s. He says I must lift up my shirt prior to entering the store.
That's gone to far now. The owner is there but I can speak with him as long as I am not carrying!! Lift up your shirt or leave.... THAT'S GONE TO FAR.. Good bye. I do not need to spend my time and money in such a place. No more from me on this subject. I hope no one faces this (EVER) how bad can it get? Thanks for letting me rant.

I thought you and him had it worked out and you we're GTG because he was under the assumption that you were a retired LEO?

 

[Ted]

 

[Gabriel]

...but said if I was an off duty police officer or a retired officer it's ok!" "So I said, no problem, I just retired last year from our local department." "Well then your OK." He rang up my milk and off I went. He did not ask to see prof of retirement or anything of the likes.

And I did not lend him to think I was retired Police, I just said very stupidly "ok I'm retired" Not I'm retired Police, he said you have to be a police officer or a retired peace officer. And I am retired.

So, which time did you lie to us?

 

[mtgasten]

Did you retire from the local police department last year?

 

[mrortega]

He's within his rights to bar you entry to his property.

But can just any employee set policy? Or does it have to be the owner or his authorized agent (shift leader, local manager?) In other words I don't think a kid at McDonalds sweeping the floor can tell me HE doesn't allow guns in the store. It would have to be a manager and then only if that policy was followed by all managers on all shifts.

Am I on the right track?

 

[bluewraith]

Of course, a straw is the best way to drink a gallon of milk while on the go.

I betcha a dollar you can't drink a whole gallon of milk in under an hour, no matter what size straw you use.

 

[bluewraith]

He says I must lift up my shirt prior to entering the store.

I'd claim sexual harassment on that one.. Gotta watch out for those pesky kids these days.

 

[bnatc]

I think I'd avoid that store on general principles. But as the agent of the owner, he is within his rights to require you to leave.

Don't bother. Take your money elsewhere.

 

[ATM]

But can just any employee set policy? Or does it have to be the owner or his authorized agent (shift leader, local manager?) In other words I don't think a kid at McDonalds sweeping the floor can tell me HE doesn't allow guns in the store. It would have to be a manager and then only if that policy was followed by all managers on all shifts.

Am I on the right track?

Not just any employee will be allowed to set policy, but trespassing laws are not based upon policies.
Any employee may ask you to leave for any reason - that is your legal notice regardless of company position or policy.

Now, that employee may be reprimanded or fired for doing so; you may even receive an apology from their boss and welcomed back, but policy and law are simply not connected in this instance.