Talk to the Prosecutor...
Nevertheless, I still hold that neither of us were speeding. The officer's only evidence, however, was to claim that he was.
I still don't believe I was exceeding the speed limit, regardless of the officer's claims.
Sorry to keep going around in circles. I honestly don't think I was speeding. I am merely pointing out the officers only evidence was that he was (we'll say allegedly) speeding himself.
As soon as possible...the day of court or before? also, how do I do this?
Nevertheless, I still hold that neither of us were speeding. The officer's only evidence, however, was to claim that he was.
I still don't believe I was exceeding the speed limit, regardless of the officer's claims.
Sorry to keep going around in circles. I honestly don't think I was speeding. I am merely pointing out the officers only evidence was that he was (we'll say allegedly) speeding himself.
With all that said, I don't like his response "we're police officers" - to me it implies we're above the law, and I don't believe he was 'on a call" so I'd file a complaint with the department if you are that concerned about getting revenge.
As far as your wrong doing, that's different. (If you were speeding, which we've already discussed)
In order for your story to be believable by me, you would have to prove to me that 'before you sped up to pull in' you were consciously going BELOW the speed limit.
Thank you for both of your posts. You make excellent points.
What sucks is that I will have to provide proof in order to be believed most likely, but the cops, who are admitting to a crime in this video, are able to be taken at their word.
What sucks is that I will have to provide proof in order to be believed most likely, but the cops, who are admitting to a crime in this video, are able to be taken at their word.
I've wondered the same thing too since the stop. I guess the only valid excuse for that on their part would be if I was driving SO recklessly, that stopping me was more important than their call.
There is no way this is the case, though. I often get accused of driving like a grandma. I am also a seat belt fanatic (even though I don't think we should be forced to wear them by law). I just feel naked without mine. And I often drive 5-10 mph under the speed limit.
This happens all the time. I have been responding to calls (that I haven't been dispatched to) and take it tick above the speed limit. For instance, if there's a bar fight somewhere, and two officers are dispatched to it, I'll start moving that way in case it situation requires more units. I'm not going "balls to the wall," but I'm certainly going a bit faster. I won't mark myself "enroute," so I can stay in service if the situation isn't that serious. Now if during the time I'm heading that way, the situation is taken care of, I'll bring it down to my normal patrol speed... and then address the people that thought because I was speeding (unknown to them why) they thought that they should too.
My thoughts aren't just the ticket cost, but the cost of insurance increase, which since it lasts for 3 years could add up to almost $900 total cost for just 1 ticket.
but they arent the defendants. You are. You keep going back to, the "if they can, so can I" theory, or the 'everyone else was doing it' theory. Neither have really been a solid defense.
If everyone on the highway was going 100MPH, and you were the one that got pulled over, the judge wont care who else was doing what. He's simply going to determine if YOU were going 100. What everyone else was doing is irrelevant.
Oh yes, I imagine it happens a lot. And honestly, I don't think it's a big deal at all and I think it should be allowed. The problem is, it is technically against the law nevertheless. And even though I support officers' ability to do this, I think their going 20mph over the speed limit illegally, and then allegedly catching me going 5mph more and ticketing me for it, using that as their only evidence, is nuts.
Again, I support officers being able to do this. I think the law should somehow allow for it. But as it stands, it doesn't look like it does. It is illegal regardless how common it is. I think it's nuts, but I also think paying $100 fine for going 5mph over its nuts too, but it's happened to me.
Exactly. The vid will only confirm your guilt. Now if the officers weren't responding to a call. They may get "dressed down" by the judge.... But on the chance that they actually were, you're going to have egg on your face.
One of the things I took note of from the vid, is that there were two cars that you passed. It wasn't a single squad that was speeding. Makes one think that they may have actually been running together to get to where they need to go.
if the fine for speeding were $5,000 you'd never speed. People speed because there is a good chance they wont get caught. If they do get caught, there is a chance they will get a warning. If they do get a ticket, there is a chance it will be reduced, dismissed. If that doesn't happen the fine is generally affordable. So EVERY day, people take the chance, and play the odds.
Are you saying you've NEVER gone above the posted speed limit? EVER?