Camera security systems

[Cameramonkey]

I will be hard wiring the system. No Wi-Fi.
One system.....8 cameras and the distances you state should be good.
You have to understand what a I am with electronics. I can wire it up and get it going but the KISS scenario is in place here.......Keep it simple stupid.
I can fix your furnace....build you a sweet 1911....a nice AR and am a fair hand at building 750 HP big blocks but not a sharp cookie beyond that.

Feel free to call me with any questions. I do structured data cabling for a living, and its got a few gotchas that can bite you in the butt. (Each run must be less than 100 meters, not run parallel to any AC wires, stay away from Fluorescent ballasts, etc) And the other gotcha, the RJ45s do have a rhyme and reason. Its not a simple straight through connection. The cable pairs matter.

 

[snapping turtle]

The sunlight will cause the lens covers to yellow over time. About 4-5 years on the west side of a house

 

[Snipercop]

Battled these questions for better than a year. I would definitely go with a wired system. Too many issues with wireless cameras. I finally decided on a custom system from Nelly's Security - The webs top source for New Security Cameras, Analog Surveillance Systems, and High Definition IP Systems. - Nelly's Security
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[churchmouse]

Feel free to call me with any questions. I do structured data cabling for a living, and its got a few gotchas that can bite you in the butt. (Each run must be less than 100 meters, not run parallel to any AC wires, stay away from Fluorescent ballasts, etc) And the other gotcha, the RJ45s do have a rhyme and reason. Its not a simple straight through connection. The cable pairs matter.

I do know about the AC thing...shielded cable ballasts etc.
Total lengths are a mystery unless it is in the instructions (if I read them) and some of the software mentioned is beyond my cave man level Google-Fu.

 

[Dirtebiker]

Instructions!?

what's that?

 

[RugerRog]

I bought a Swann system a few years ago at Frys. It was an 8 channel dvr with 4 cameras. If I had it to do over I would buy the DVR without cameras and buy the cameras separately. The cameras that came in my kit were not that good, and they had a very narrow field of vision. I'd recommend a wide angle camera to cover and overlap the area you are wanting to cover. I've replaced 3 of the cameras because they crapped out with much better versions and they are wide angle too.

 

[GLOCKMAN23C]

Link does not work.

I want a common system to cover everything. Next time you are over I will lay it out for you.

Got ya.

 

[RobbyMaQ]

Sorry to thread jack, but am also interested.
Are wired cams nowadays all cat5/cat 6? or coax? All connected to a computer for monitoring? or stand alone box?
Wat sort of hardware is involved? I run a couple usb cams off my puter's that alert me if someone is in the room. but would like to have more (exterior options).
So I am following along in this thread, just curious what hardware/software is involved (aside from power) for these cameras. THey all look the same to me.

 

[actaeon277]

Sorry to thread jack, but am also interested.
Are wired cams nowadays all cat5/cat 6? or coax? All connected to a computer for monitoring? or stand alone box?
Wat sort of hardware is involved? I run a couple usb cams off my puter's that alert me if someone is in the room. but would like to have more (exterior options).
So I am following along in this thread, just curious what hardware/software is involved (aside from power) for these cameras. THey all look the same to me.

cat 5 is limited to 295 feet transmission, unless a repeater or hub is used. It has to do with the collision/timing of the packets in the transmission

 

[RobbyMaQ]

cat 5 is limited to 295 feet transmission, unless a repeater or hub is used. It has to do with the collision/timing of the packets in the transmission

So that means coax, with some sort of converter box? like friggin token ring from the 80's?
Though 295 feet isn't an issue at my place. 10ft usb is.

 

[churchmouse]

So that means coax, with some sort of converter box? like friggin token ring from the 80's?
Though 295 feet isn't an issue at my place. 10ft usb is.

295 will more than cover anything we do location wise.

 

[actaeon277]

So that means coax, with some sort of converter box? like friggin token ring from the 80's?
Though 295 feet isn't an issue at my place. 10ft usb is.

295 will more than cover anything we do location wise.

295 feet burns up real fast if it's at 2 locations.
Course, I'm used to running lengths in a building the size of a large mall.


As for why the distance limitation on CAT 5
networking - Maximum length of Ethernet over CAT5 - Super User
The specification of 328 feet has to do entirely with collision detection in a CSMA/CD (Carrier Sense Multi Access / Collision Detection network. The length is limited by the fact that the shortest possible frame size (64 bytes) can be sent out on the wire and if a collision occurs, the sending node will still be sending that frame when it hears the collision.

 

[churchmouse]

295 feet burns up real fast if it's at 2 locations.
Course, I'm used to running lengths in a building the size of a large mall.


As for why the distance limitation on CAT 5
networking - Maximum length of Ethernet over CAT5 - Super User
The specification of 328 feet has to do entirely with collision detection in a CSMA/CD (Carrier Sense Multi Access / Collision Detection network. The length is limited by the fact that the shortest possible frame size (64 bytes) can be sent out on the wire and if a collision occurs, the sending node will still be sending that frame when it hears the collision.

Is this per run or total in the entire system

 

[RobbyMaQ]

I get all that... I gather they can be linked? have 2 jacks or something goofy? to make a 300' run unpossible?
I'd be running them all to one central hub. max length any one camera/cable to the hub (cat 6), 75'

Can my router assign them IP's and such individually? or some special box?

 

[actaeon277]

Is this per run or total in the entire system

From your camera to either the DVR, or a switch/hub. The switch/hub will retransmit. Then you'll be limited to 295 feet from the switch/hub to the DVR.

In other words, from device to device.

 

[actaeon277]

I get all that... I gather they can be linked? have 2 jacks or something goofy? to make a 300' run unpossible?
I'd be running them all to one central hub. max length any one camera/cable to the hub (cat 6), 75'

You can join multiple lengths together, but it can't exceed 295. Unless you put a switch or hub in there, then you can extend it again.

 

[actaeon277]

Also, I'm just talking CAT5. Pretty sure there are other options out there.

But, coax works great. So does a special video cable that contains coax for the signal, and wires for voltage, together in the same cable.

 

[churchmouse]

From your camera to either the DVR, or a switch/hub. The switch/hub will retransmit. Then you'll be limited to 295 feet from the switch/hub to the DVR.

In other words, from device to device.

Heck I am good.

 

[actaeon277]

Heck I am good.

That's not what she said.

 

[churchmouse]

That's not what she said.

She lies...........