Time for some discussion INGO. I came across this video yesterday and was intrigued. tnoutdoors9 is a well respected YouTube reviewer, and has uploaded hundreds of ammo testing videos. I think his videos are well thought out, and that his testing methods are thorough and fair. In this new video he compares four standard pressure 9mm loads in ballistic gel. The results were as expected, but the analysis of handgun cartridge performance was unexpected (at least to me), when standard pressure and +P loads were compared. A summary of the results are as follows, but please watch the whole video and don't just read and rely on my summary.
45ACP 230 grain--12 different rounds tested
Average penetration: 14"
40S&W 180 grain--10 different rounds tested
Average penetration: 14"
9mm--24 different rounds tested
Average penetration: 14.43"
Average expansion: .573"
9mm +P--number of different rounds unknown
Average penetration: 13.38"
Average expansion: .629"
In light of this information, do any of you have a new view of caliber selection or +P ammo selection? This thread isn't intended to be a .45 v. .40 v. 9mm debate, but rather an evaluation of how far self defense ammunition has progressed, and whether +P rounds are necessary in ANY caliber at this point. I'm sure caliber selection will come into the debate, which is fine, I just don't care to start the usual internet bickering over "size" that has nothing to do with caliber...
[video=youtube;c8gm7ZTkDxc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8gm7ZTkDxc[/video]
45ACP 230 grain--12 different rounds tested
Average penetration: 14"
40S&W 180 grain--10 different rounds tested
Average penetration: 14"
9mm--24 different rounds tested
Average penetration: 14.43"
Average expansion: .573"
9mm +P--number of different rounds unknown
Average penetration: 13.38"
Average expansion: .629"
In light of this information, do any of you have a new view of caliber selection or +P ammo selection? This thread isn't intended to be a .45 v. .40 v. 9mm debate, but rather an evaluation of how far self defense ammunition has progressed, and whether +P rounds are necessary in ANY caliber at this point. I'm sure caliber selection will come into the debate, which is fine, I just don't care to start the usual internet bickering over "size" that has nothing to do with caliber...
[video=youtube;c8gm7ZTkDxc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8gm7ZTkDxc[/video]