Black Market

[patience0830]

... and out of being able to defend yourself and your family. I sure hope you are kidding.
It's much more than a hobby you know. Its our ability to keep our over reaching federal government from taking away the rest of our rights.
You need to think it through to its logical conclusion. Once the feds have our guns , whats to keep them from MAKING us do what they want?
Nothing.
You think you are protecting your family by following the new rules but you're not. You're teaching them that being a slave is ok.

+1

 

[88GT]

I likely would not use it, since I would have legal and traceable firearms. If I didnt have anything to suggest I own a firearm (no LTCH or NFA items) then I might, but since it wouldnt be hard for them to determine that I have firearms, I would want to stay legal "just in case".

Wouldn't black market firearms by definition be illegal and mostly untraceable?

 

[Lonestar6]

Option D: 5th amendment for as long as that lasts.

 

[oneshotadam]

... and out of being able to defend yourself and your family. I sure hope you are kidding.
It's much more than a hobby you know. Its our ability to keep our over reaching federal government from taking away the rest of our rights.
You need to think it through to its logical conclusion. Once the feds have our guns , whats to keep them from MAKING us do what they want?
Nothing.
You think you are protecting your family by following the new rules but you're not. You're teaching them that being a slave is ok.

Good way to put it

 

[JRPLANE]

prohibition worked so well!!

 

[indytechnerd]

100% AWB according to Fienstien, with surrender.
All current non-AWB weapons are required to be registered nationwide.
All future purchases must take place at an FFL, no more gunshows (even with FFLs), no more private sales.
100% traceability from manufacturer to end consumer.
Must be a member of an approved gun club or range (Atturbury, MCFG, Eagle Creek, etc.) in order to shoot. (reading between the lines, no carry of any type except to the range of which you are a member)

No need to say yes or no, for those who'd really rather not admit that publicly, but comments are welcome.

Quoting myself to clarify for some folks. Point #1: Anything in Feinstein's current list is verboten and no grandfathering, if you've got an AR-15, it must be surrendered. Point #2: The only acceptable location outside the home to be in possession of a firearm (non AWB) is an approved club/range.

Is the right of self defense, the implied responsibility that some men must rise up when their government no longer serves them, and the culture of firearms today greater than what would arguably be the law of the land (in Bizarro World)?

My Avatar: If you are listening to this,you are the resistance.

 

[88GT]

Quoting myself to clarify for some folks. Point #1: Anything in Feinstein's current list is verboten and no grandfathering, if you've got an AR-15, it must be surrendered. Point #2: The only acceptable location outside the home to be in possession of a firearm (non AWB) is an approved club/range.

Is the right of self defense, the implied responsibility that some men must rise up when their government no longer serves them, and the culture of firearms today greater than what would arguably be the law of the land (in Bizarro World)?

My Avatar: If you are listening to this,you are the resistance.

So storage would be at the approved club-ish locations?

 

[indytechnerd]

So storage would be at the approved club-ish locations?

I believe that's the UK way, but can't say for certain. If the answer were yes, I'm sure the votes would probably change a bit.

 

[AtTheMurph]

I don't have to obey any unconstitutional laws.

 

[Hop]

I don't have to obey any unconstitutional laws.

Winner!

 

[SSGSAD]

Let's say in Bizarro world, the hammer falls, and our worst fears are realized...

100% AWB according to Fienstien, with surrender.
All current non-AWB weapons are required to be registered nationwide.
All future purchases must take place at an FFL, no more gunshows (even with FFLs), no more private sales.
100% traceability from manufacturer to end consumer.

Now, we the people can keep the few remaining guns we have at home, but must be a member of an approved gun club or range (Atturbury, MCFG, Eagle Creek, etc.) in order to use them.

No need to say yes or no, for those who'd really rather not admit that publicly, but comments are welcome.

Don't you know why D. F. "works so hard" on these gun bans?????
So she won't ban HER OWN 5 or 6 shot .38, that SHE CARRIES..... so NO worries, we will ALL have 5 or 6 shot .38 revolvers.....

 

[Light]

Right now a lot of New York citizens are vocally saying that they will not follow the SAFE act, and I guess I'd be one of the few people in this thread to do the same.

I will NOT follow any unconstitutional law. I am NOT a slave to the government, the government is here to serve me. They have forgotten this, and if it would take force for them to remember it through the disobeying of an unconstitutional law, then so be it.

 

[printcraft]

No, and would report any use of it

5 9.62%

Who voted for this?

Seriously, GTFO

 

[zippy23]

hopefully the revolution would have happened and the right side won by the time this would all take affect. or is it effect? not sure but i sure wouldnt report s#*$!!

 

[88GT]

Who voted for this?

Seriously, GTFO

Probably five people who like to mess with the polls. I've been known to do it on occasion. Particularly in polls during the primary season just to watch certain people spontaneously combust when someone "supported" Newt.

 

[You'll shoot your eye out]

Not going to Vote in the poll, which probably indicates what my answer would have been if I had answered it, yet still gives plausible deniability.

 

[oneshotadam]

... and out of being able to defend yourself and your family. I sure hope you are kidding.
It's much more than a hobby you know. Its our ability to keep our over reaching federal government from taking away the rest of our rights.
You need to think it through to its logical conclusion. Once the feds have our guns , whats to keep them from MAKING us do what they want?
Nothing.
You think you are protecting your family by following the new rules but you're not. You're teaching them that being a slave is ok.

Good way to put it

 

[JoshuaW]

Wouldn't black market firearms by definition be illegal and mostly untraceable?

Im assuming that they would be keeping a closer eye on someone who has legal firearms in an effort to make sure they were not later acquiring illegal firearms.

 

[japartridge]

Im assuming that they would be keeping a closer eye on someone who has legal firearms in an effort to make sure they were not later acquiring illegal firearms.

Personally I'm betting that they would have their hands full with other issues... like defending against armed revolt.... just my

 

[88GT]

Im assuming that they would be keeping a closer eye on someone who has legal firearms in an effort to make sure they were not later acquiring illegal firearms.

Maybe I misunderstood some of the specifics, but in this scenario, none of the firearms would be allowed to be stored at the owner's home. In which case, ANY firearm stored at the owner's home would be, by definition, illegal.

If I were legally allowed to store them in my home, why would I need to worry about obtaining any on the black market?

Like I said, I may not have understood the specifics.