Beer Virus VI-The Final Episode..... Hopefully

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  • bobzilla

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    We’ll see. The data may yet prove net benefit but we’re hardly in the slam dunk zone The Science (TM) promised.

    “This data provides real-world evidence of possible vaccine-caused “antibody dependent enhancement.” In ADE, vaccines cause our immune systems to produce antibodies that help a virus or other pathogen to attack us.”

    That's not what that study says at all. It DOES say that vaccine effectiveness fell off to 0% by 14 weeks for Omicron. It goes on to state that the reason for the "negative" effect is due to the unvaccinated recipients were more likely to have gotten the virus where the vaccinated had not.

    I know we want to end this with real science but lets not do it with lies.
     

    tim87tr

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    Covid seems like a convenient way for people to say they got sick. The big lie appears to be tricking people into taking an alleged vaccine, that no one knows 18 months later what's in it, because the fear porn scared them to not want to be sick. By population there's practically no increase in annual deaths but the numbers are increasing a lot now from whatevers in this innoculation, as the Covid scare fizzled and apparently not a threat or causing these deaths. Time for some war games as a coverup for this and the fiat currency failure.

    If there really wasn't a Covid virus or a fake vaccine for it, would the World be any worse off? Sure has been a lot of chaos and engineered collapse over a claimed danger to humanity when the alleged solution has actually created that and more, especially death by vaccine.
     

    GodFearinGunTotin

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    That's not what that study says at all. It DOES say that vaccine effectiveness fell off to 0% by 14 weeks for Omicron. It goes on to state that the reason for the "negative" effect is due to the unvaccinated recipients were more likely to have gotten the virus where the vaccinated had not.

    I know we want to end this with real science but lets not do it with lies.
    We’ll see. Berensen has been pretty accurate on his analysis throughout this covid train wreck.
     

    1DOWN4UP

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    GodFearinGunTotin

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    I read the damn thing. He’s cherry picking for a “gotcha “ headline.
    I did too. I’ve been following his work for 2 years now. You wouldn’t be the first one to accuse him and then he be proven right. Maybe he is, maybe he’s not.
     

    Timjoebillybob

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    After Jabs, RED counties dieing at a higher rate then blue counties........this has to be fake news.

    Nah, it doesn't have to be fake news. It's possible that it is entirely accurate. But it's also possible that the vax didn't cause excess deaths but that it prevented them. Who do you think was more likely to get the jab, Repubs or Dems? The paper even makes that suggestion.
    Lack of individual-level vaccination status limits our ability to draw broad conclusions, but the results suggest that the well-documented differences in vaccination attitudes and reported uptake between Republicans and Democrats [10, 7, 8, 13] have already had serious consequences for the severity and trajectory of the pandemic in the United States. If these differences in vaccination by politcal party affiliation persist, then the higher excess death rate among Republicans is likely to continue through the subsequent stages of the COVID-19 pandemic.
    Scroll down to where it says download a PDF to read the actual paper.

    This is quite possibly fake news, the only cite he ever provided was one that someone else posted in the thread. And only after being asked if he had any cites. And that cite does not say what he posted. It's in part of Australia (NSW) not worldwide. And it's not supposed to start until Aug of next year if then, not by the end of this year. The Premier of NSW issued a "challenge" for vaccine manufactures to get one developed and approved by then.
     

    ditcherman

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    Nah, it doesn't have to be fake news. It's possible that it is entirely accurate. But it's also possible that the vax didn't cause excess deaths but that it prevented them. Who do you think was more likely to get the jab, Repubs or Dems? The paper even makes that suggestion.

    Scroll down to where it says download a PDF to read the actual paper.

    This is quite possibly fake news, the only cite he ever provided was one that someone else posted in the thread. And only after being asked if he had any cites. And that cite does not say what he posted. It's in part of Australia (NSW) not worldwide. And it's not supposed to start until Aug of next year if then, not by the end of this year. The Premier of NSW issued a "challenge" for vaccine manufactures to get one developed and approved by then.
    What about before jabs?
    In other words, is the population of red counties naturally older and the death rate was higher, before vax, too?
     

    Timjoebillybob

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    What about before jabs?
    In other words, is the population of red counties naturally older and the death rate was higher, before vax, too?
    Per the paper before they were widely available there wasn't any difference, and in counties with high uptake of the vax after it became widely available there wasn't any difference.

    Quite possibly…for now. But through out the entire covid time the difference between “fake news” and it actually happening is what? Six months?
    Oh it could become real, I'm not stating that it can't. But right now it's made up the best I can tell. And he's also a vegan, would he have anything to gain by scaring people off of meat/dairy? As an example look at Peta billboards... I'm not saying he's making crap up to scare people into being vegan, but it is a possibility. Or he could have seen that somewhere believed it and figured it might be a good way to convert people. Or he could have seen it, believed it and shared it just as a PSA.
     
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