Are you part of the 53%

[Slapstick]

I am! The 53%: Occupy Wall Street backlash - Oct. 26, 2011

 

[revsaxon]

Only 53% of us pay taxes?! No wonder were in such a damn mess. Get off your A&$ and get a damn job!

 

[indiucky]

Yes.


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[Smokepole]

I am! The 53%: Occupy Wall Street backlash - Oct. 26, 2011

Yes ! Yes I am. I am self-employed and the economy is making it very rough. But I don't want any handouts and I have a few words for those that want to sit around and "Occupy" in protest for benefits that they have not earned and DO NOT DESERVE !!!! GET OFF OF YOUR SORRY LAZY BUTT AND BECOME PRODUCTIVE MEMBERS OF SOCIETY !

Try contributing like the rest of us so YOU can PAY YOUR TAXES TOO ! ! ! ! !

And own and shoot guns too ! WOO HOO!!!

Just my

 

[Prometheus]

Only 53% of us pay taxes?! No wonder were in such a damn mess. Get off your A&$ and get a damn job!

When it comes to a federal income tax, we'd be much better off if 100% of the people didn't pay it.

The federal income tax scheme is wealth redistribution. Why would you want more people having their money stolen from them?

BTW, many people who work minimum wage jobs pay nothing in federal taxes (when refunds give them more money back than they paid in).

Plenty of employed people pay little or no federal income tax.

Your ignorance of who doesn't pay taxes is only out shined by your desire to see more people contributing to a corrupt socialist wealth redistribution system.

 

[Phil502]

When it comes to a federal income tax, we'd be much better off if 100% of the people didn't pay it.

The federal income tax scheme is wealth redistribution. Why would you want more people having their money stolen from them?

BTW, many people who work minimum wage jobs pay nothing in federal taxes (when refunds give them more money back than they paid in).

Plenty of employed people pay little or no federal income tax.

Your ignorance of who doesn't pay taxes is only out shined by your desire to see more people contributing to a corrupt socialist wealth redistribution system.

I pay taxes, I'm self employed and send the money in 4 times a year.

If no-one payed any taxes where would the government get the money to do the things we need? I won't get into what we need but you must agree there are somethings that we need.

 

[HICKMAN]

on Twitter #iamthe53%

 

[Prometheus]

I pay taxes, I'm self employed and send the money in 4 times a year.

If no-one payed any taxes where would the government get the money to do the things we need? I won't get into what we need but you must agree there are somethings that we need.

Federal personal income taxes make up about 40% of the federal income. If we eliminate those taxes and go back to 1990's spending it is a wash.

I would be shocked to find anyone who was a 'conservative' trying to claim that the US wasn't the top nation in the world during the 90's and we had a big military and plenty of social programs, roads, bridges and federal agents to go around for everyone.

I agree there are a very limited number of things we need (such as military defense spending), I also show that those things (and more) can be paid for WITHOUT the need for a personal federal income tax.

Also keep in mind that the personal federal income tax is less than a century old. We got along just fine without it and I submit we can continue to get along fine without once again.

 

[Slapstick]

When it comes to a federal income tax, we'd be much better off if 100% of the people didn't pay it.

The federal income tax scheme is wealth redistribution. Why would you want more people having their money stolen from them?

BTW, many people who work minimum wage jobs pay nothing in federal taxes (when refunds give them more money back than they paid in).

Plenty of employed people pay little or no federal income tax.

Your ignorance of who doesn't pay taxes is only out shined by your desire to see more people contributing to a corrupt socialist wealth redistribution system.

I take by your post you're part of the 47%?

 

[Prometheus]

I take by your post you're part of the 47%?

I take it your part of the lower portion of that 53% who pay a few hundred dollars a year, maybe 1 or 2k in federal taxes and feel like you are doing "your part" while others are paying in tens of thousands of dollars yet you can seem to figure out why some of us are tired of paying not just the 47%'s way but also subsiding 'your part' too?

I find a large portion of the 53% just as offensive as the 47%. Why? Because a large portion of that 53% feel all swell and happy they are doing their part while the rest of us are subsiding them too.

Yeah, way to go buddy, what ever you need to tell yourself so you can sleep at night.

Really though, do you not think we were spending enough money in the 1990's? You sure you didn't mean to type dailykos into your browser instead of INGO?

 

[Kase]

I take it your part of the lower portion of that 53% who pay a few hundred dollars a year, maybe 1 or 2k in federal taxes and feel like you are doing "your part" while others are paying in tens of thousands of dollars yet you can seem to figure out why some of us are tired of paying not just the 47%'s way but also subsiding 'your part' too?

I find a large portion of the 53% just as offensive as the 47%. Why? Because a large portion of that 53% feel all swell and happy they are doing their part while the rest of us are subsiding them too.

Yeah, way to go buddy, what ever you need to tell yourself so you can sleep at night.

Really though, do you not think we were spending enough money in the 1990's? You sure you didn't mean to type dailykos into your browser instead of INGO?

It's cool that you're giving your opinion and all, but there's no reason to be a complete (Edit) "mean guy" about it.

Show a little respect to your ingo brethren

 

[Slapstick]

I take it your part of the lower portion of that 53% who pay a few hundred dollars a year, maybe 1 or 2k in federal taxes and feel like you are doing "your part" while others are paying in tens of thousands of dollars yet you can seem to figure out why some of us are tired of paying not just the 47%'s way but also subsiding 'your part' too?

I find a large portion of the 53% just as offensive as the 47%. Why? Because a large portion of that 53% feel all swell and happy they are doing their part while the rest of us are subsiding them too.

Yeah, way to go buddy, what ever you need to tell yourself so you can sleep at night.

Really though, do you not think we were spending enough money in the 1990's? You sure you didn't mean to type dailykos into your browser instead of INGO?

I seem to have struck a nerve, oh my goodness I've been insulted. I also noticed you didn't answer the question, so I guess you're part of the 47 % crowd. Get food stamps too? I also didn't know the HUD/Sec 8 allowed guns om their properties, hey learn something new everyday.

Actually you just pi**ed me off for attacking revsaxon for expressing his opinion. You're entitled to your opinion and he is entitled to his as I am to mine. It's funny but you're quick to dish it out not so quick to take it in stride. I see that a lot with the "entitlement" mentality crowd.

 

[steveh_131]

I find a large portion of the 53% just as offensive as the 47%. Why? Because a large portion of that 53% feel all swell and happy they are doing their part while the rest of us are subsiding them too.

Actually, this is a pretty good point. The purpose of this thread is to complain that some people are paying less taxes than we are. And yet there are plenty of people who could be angry that we're paying less taxes than them.

Kind of hypocritical, if you ask me.

 

[Prometheus]

Actually you just pi**ed me off for attacking revsaxon for expressing his opinion. You're entitled to your opinion and he is entitled to his as I am to mine. It's funny but you're quick to dish it out not so quick to take it in stride. I see that a lot with the "entitlement" mentality crowd.

Getting pissed off is one thing. Demanding I hand over more of MY money is quite another.

It's theft. Stealing money from person A to give to person B is theft.

You (and revsaxon) are advocating theft. I see you throwing around a lot of accusations, me think thou doth protestest too much.

You and your 'opinions' stop when they advocating STEALING from me.

I'm a dirty capitalist. The worst kind... I left my love for helping patients to work for a Biologics company. Ayn Rand would be proud.

 

[jblomenberg16]

I am part of the 53% and have been since I graduated college. Prometheus is right...our current system is a redistribution of wealth, plain and simple It is also a shameless political ploy to buy power and control at the expense of those you are trying to excert more control over. The government takes money from me, and gives it to someone else. The other guy is happy because he got free money, and I feel like I just got robbed, because not only was my money taken, but in the process more restrictive laws are being passed to tell me what I can and cannot do with what money and time I have left.

While I'm not quite on the page of abolishing federal income tax, I'm am on the page that a person should not be able to get back more in refund than they pay in.

I do think that for the near future, a federal income tax is necessary to help dig ourselves out of the hole we've dug in the last two decades. And in doing so, there are certain aspects of the "fair share" ideals that might very well be better than the current plan.

Our economy is driven plain and simply by capitalism, and the ability of people to buy sell and trade goods. Those goods can come from the USA, India, China, Timbuktu, or somewhere in between. We just need to get the sticky fat fingers from washington off that $$ so that consumers can do what they do best, and spend it on things they want and need, not pay it to some all consuming government beast.

 

[Slapstick]

Getting pissed off is one thing. Demanding I hand over more of MY money is quite another.

It's theft. Stealing money from person A to give to person B is theft.

You (and revsaxon) are advocating theft. I see you throwing around a lot of accusations, me think thou doth protestest too much.

You and your 'opinions' stop when they advocating STEALING from me.

I'm a dirty capitalist. The worst kind... I left my love for helping patients to work for a Biologics company. Ayn Rand would be proud.

No body advocated stealing from anyone, the article just pointed out that the so called 99%ters don't speak for 99% of the people. If you truly are in the 53% group then you should be a little upset that you're in essence subsidizing the 47 % that don't pay taxes. If you look at it this way, if more people paid income taxes then your tax burden would go down and so less "stealing" of your money. There I put it in simple terms for you.

As far "I see you throwing around a lot of accusations" I' don't see where you got that from since I explained the meanness/sarcastic comments were due to your attack on revsaxon but then again

 

[Slapstick]

I am part of the 53% and have been since I graduated college. Prometheus is right...our current system is a redistribution of wealth, plain and simple It is also a shameless political ploy to buy power and control at the expense of those you are trying to excert more control over. The government takes money from me, and gives it to someone else. The other guy is happy because he got free money, and I feel like I just got robbed, because not only was my money taken, but in the process more restrictive laws are being passed to tell me what I can and cannot do with what money and time I have left.

While I'm not quite on the page of abolishing federal income tax, I'm am on the page that a person should not be able to get back more in refund than they pay in.

I do think that for the near future, a federal income tax is necessary to help dig ourselves out of the hole we've dug in the last two decades. And in doing so, there are certain aspects of the "fair share" ideals that might very well be better than the current plan.

Our economy is driven plain and simply by capitalism, and the ability of people to buy sell and trade goods. Those goods can come from the USA, India, China, Timbuktu, or somewhere in between. We just need to get the sticky fat fingers from washington off that $$ so that consumers can do what they do best, and spend it on things they want and need, not pay it to some all consuming government beast.

Absolutely correct, it is a redistribution of wealth. When just over half are forced to pay taxes it's nothing short of wealth redistribution. I am of the belief that everyone should pay something for the services they get, not just the 53% that currently do. We all use the infrastructure that is provided by the government so all should pay a part in maintaining it. I haven't met a person yet that truly appreciated something was free vs working for it.

 

[Prometheus]

No body advocated stealing from anyone, the article just pointed out that the so called 99%ters don't speak for 99% of the people. If you truly are in the 53% group then you should be a little upset that you're in essence subsidizing the 47 % that don't pay taxes.

What about the tens of millions of working people who pay only a few hundred dollars a year or a couple thousand? They are getting subsidized too.

Why should I feel any better about money being stolen and subsidizing someone unemployed as opposed to being stolen and subsidizing Billy Bob working the gun counter down at gander mountain?

Is that theft some how more palatable to you because Billy Bob has a "job"?

10-1 Billy Bob thinks he is paying his 'fair share' and looks down at the welfare recipient without even realizing he is subsidized as well.

If you look at it this way, if more people paid income taxes then your tax burden would go down and so less "stealing" of your money. There I put it in simple terms for you.

Yep, but theft is theft. Taking money from person A to give to person B is theft.

 

[Prometheus]

Absolutely correct, it is a redistribution of wealth. When just over half are forced to pay taxes it's nothing short of wealth redistribution. I am of the belief that everyone should pay something for the services they get, not just the 53% that currently do. We all use the infrastructure that is provided by the government so all should pay a part in maintaining it. I haven't met a person yet that truly appreciated something was free vs working for it.

and again the personal federal income doesn't pay for a penny of any of it.

 

[CombatRex]

I dont know how to say this, but you are both right. However this all derives from the actions of the gov and it's union supporters and not wall street. The 47% should be in front of the white house along with the 53% protesting over regulation, government excess and lobbyist. Free enterprise and captialism needs to be left alone to thrive. Not only do we have income tax, we have gas tax, alcohol taxes, road taxes, tobacco taxes, sales taxes, taxes on firearems, phones, cable tv, and thousands of other taxes. On top of the taxes we have regulations that are antibusiness. These drive the cost of business up and out of the country taking jobs with them. Get rid of the EPA just for starters. The union's have lost their way, they have driven up the price of buiness and they funnel their members money to their union bosses and whatever political party is greasing their palms. Sorry for the rant, but it's my two cents worth. I am typing in a hurry so please ignore all the grammatical and spelling errors.