Are we -The U.S. heading into a World War?

[loudgroove]

We are in a war as we write in this post. If war objectives are to divide and conquer then eyes need to open and positions on the battlefield must be taken. The war is not killing human beings but rather killing our constitution, our morals, our integrity. It's killing the values we once had but have lost. We have communists in the WH, we have total disregard for law and whatever law we have is not handed out equally. Good is evil, evil is good. Freedom of speech is no longer embraced. Public opposition is being silenced and jailed. Crimes against the US citizen are being manufactured by those who want the see the USA fall. If you cannot see that we are in a current war for our very own existence, then one is blind or just doesn't care.

I agree 100%. But this is also happening in other countries as well. And this agenda is more advanced in some of these countries.

 

[JTScribe]

Is it possible to be in a world war the same as you’re in a civil war? ‘Cause I don’t see the divide getting better anytime soon.

 

[smokingman]

The globalist and the military industrial complex ( at the very least) are pushing for another " great war".

This version started back in 2011 with US NGOS and USAID increasing spening in Ukraine 20x what it was in 2010, but really got going in 2014 after a few years of preparing to overthrow the elected government of Ukraine.

Did world war 3 just start?

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At first it was just Democrats pushing for it, now the entire MIC seems to be on the train...rinos and loads of Republican's are all included now. They seem to have worked up a formula to sell this war to just about everyone, less those that see the sales pitch for what it is.

Countries with unpayable debts historically have gone to war, some win and some lose(See England,Spain,Dutch,Germany for fairly recent examples).

 

[Mij]

It appears that the U.S. has given the approval to Ukraine to now use U.S. supplied weapons on Russian home territory. And other NATO countries have already said the same.

It is reported that some NATO weapons have been used inside Russia.

Putin is saying he considers that an escalation of the conflict. He has already said that could make those countries assets legitimate targets.

China has ramped up it’s threat to Taiwan.

I’m concerned the current political events in the U.S. are only a smoke screen to keep our eyes looking in the wrong direction. The military industrial complex is hard at work all around the world.
JMO.

 

[Shadow01]

Would someone please lean on the big red button real hard…

 

[Mij]

NATO getting closer to war every week, Hungary's Orban says — Reuters

NATO's plans to get more involved in the war in Ukraine are like a firefighter trying to put out a fire with a flamethrower, Hungary's Prime Minister Viktor Orban said on Friday.

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From Reuters

 

[jwamplerusa]

These stupid m************ are going to get us in a nuclear war. Worse it will likely be a limited tactical nuclear exchange wherein our children will be sent to fight and die in an irradiated h*** hole for nothing.

As Washington said in his farewell address.

"So, likewise, passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exist, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite nation of privileges denied to others, which is apt doubly to injure the nation making the concessions by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained and by exciting jealousy, ill will, and in this position to retaliate in the parties from which equal probably is are withheld; and it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or diluted citizens (who devote themselves to the favorite Nation) facility to betray or sacrifice the interest of their own country without odium, sometimes even with popularity, gilding with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a lot of zeal for public good the base of foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation."

We should listen to The sage advice of our first president.

No matter how much you hate the administrative state, and the Communists (AKA the Democratic Party) you don't hate them enough.

 

[spencer rifle]

I don't think you can maintain a modern war for very long. High lethality combined with high to hit probability means that the supply of sophisticated weapons disappears quickly. I could see war in steps where the modern stuff is used up way faster than logistics can keep up and you have to shift to older stuff while you wait and see if more new stuff gets there.

This is what happened during the last Civil War. Tactics did not keep up with the advances in weaponry. Result - hideous carnage. And everything is changing at an increasing rate. Human brainpower can't keep up with it.

Add to this the risk to our currency. Money supply WAY up, purchasing power way down, spending with no limit, supplies of all kinds crimped, the FED doing it's usual job of "wrong answer at the wrong time," threats from BRICS to replace the petrodollar. Gov seems determined to drive us right off that cliff and is racing toward it full speed.

Between or upcoming election (where weakness and intransigence is up against strength and unpredictability), some players might see the window closing and act accordingly. Things are about to get spicy.

 

[Tombs]

I don't really subscribe to the concept that the major global wars ever ended. WW1 started for pretty nebulous reasons that were already deep into their consequences.

WW2 was a continuation of that war.

The cold war was a product of WW2, the focus just shifted from germany and onto communists, which germany had been fighting before. Almost all the conflicts we were involved in during the cold war era were efforts to stifle communists, and following that, the focus shifted to groups the communists had been fighting off.

What we're seeing now is just a continuation of the same justifications, between the same people. It's hard to call it a different war, to me.

The most insane part is that we could have stayed out of all of it, with likely zero impact on our own nation. We continually just trade letting someone else fight the threat for ourselves having to fight the threat. Communists wouldn't exist today had we stayed out of WW2.

 

[BugI02]

I think the real question is not 'is there going to be another world war' the real question is how it's going to be fought. With the race to AI, collapsing economies world wide, rampant migration (legal and not) and the increasingly rapid development of actual robots, not to mention robot dogs that could possibly be mounted with weapons, I wonder if we're going to see a silent war of computers or a slow inevitable destruction of economic war, or even possibly just infinite drone warfare (people are less likely to care about rampant spending than sending young men to die). Of course it could also just be a good old fashioned ground war, but how many able bodied fighting age men would be willing die for our, or even any other 'first world' nation overseas? We'd happily stand side by side with a Californian shooting at Russians trying to land on our shore but, a protracted ground war against another modernized country like deployment into Ukraine, not a chance.

In the outcome of every single credible war game I'm aware of, the result of a nuclear exchange - no matter how limited initially - always devolves into a full scale nuclear war. Use of nuclear weapons is THE most destabilizing thing that any country can do
“I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.” ― Albert Einstein

 

[Mij]

If things occur the way they’re shaping up, there will be no winner this time. Only dark times for quite a long time.

 

[Ark]

This is exactly what I'm afraid of: Desperate, flailing presidency blitzing and escalating everywhere in blind terror of losing an election, not giving a crap about how severe the consequences.

Intentionally bombing Russian ICBM warning radar while bragging about how you're going to shoot more ballistic missiles into their territory is lunatic behavior. It's like if Russia carried out a coup in Canada, rolled a handpicked new government in, moved in a bunch of missiles, and then started knocking out the radars that detect nuclear missiles fired at DC. What, exactly, would you think they were working their way up to?

 

[JTKelly]

Heading in to?

Seems to me as if it is nearly lost already.

 

[patience0830]

Is it possible to be in a world war the same as you’re in a civil war? ‘Cause I don’t see the divide getting better anytime soon.

Yes