The sighting system on the Sig seems like a fine way to get around an RDS failure. How do your two EDCs stack up against one another? Do you have a preference?
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Are red dots reliable?
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Red Dots are nice but here are some things to know.
1. Many modern pistols cut a notch in the top of the chamber as a way to identify if there is a round loaded. This causes gas and gunk to accumulate on most red dot lenses. You will really start to notice this after a magazine or 2. Is this impactful to a self-defense scenario? Probably not but maybe.
2. You won't notice your battery died. This can be mitigated but you'll have to pay attention.
3. Your shot-to-shot time may be faster but you will have to practice to get the dot where you want it on the draw. This means you may be slower to the first shot. Again, mitigate with training.
4. Most people seem to have better accuracy at longer ranges with red dots.
I have been shooting red dots on pistols for many years, and lately, I'm finding less advantage over iron sights. That may just be my aging eyes.
1. Many modern pistols cut a notch in the top of the chamber as a way to identify if there is a round loaded. This causes gas and gunk to accumulate on most red dot lenses. You will really start to notice this after a magazine or 2. Is this impactful to a self-defense scenario? Probably not but maybe.
2. You won't notice your battery died. This can be mitigated but you'll have to pay attention.
3. Your shot-to-shot time may be faster but you will have to practice to get the dot where you want it on the draw. This means you may be slower to the first shot. Again, mitigate with training.
4. Most people seem to have better accuracy at longer ranges with red dots.
I have been shooting red dots on pistols for many years, and lately, I'm finding less advantage over iron sights. That may just be my aging eyes.
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Both have about 3” barrels and accuracy wise edge to the CZ. The sig is smaller and lighter and I tend to take it when I am lightly dressed and need something more concealable. The CZ is heavier and thicker so less felt recoil. I carry both with a 10 + 1, my spare sig mag is 12 rnds, the CZ 14. My favorite EDC is my CZ PCR (15+1) its a bigger pistol with a longer aight radius and has only iron sights and I shoot it well hitting torso sized targets out to 50 yds.
1. Both my carry pistols have this notch and have shot several hundred rounds at a time with each without any significant clouding
2. I change batteries on a conservative schedule and check every time I pull one out of the safe. So far have never had a surprise battery failure, with both my Holosuns and my one Sig Romeo 1
3. You need to practice with or without a red dot! I find my P365 did not require any Retraining, every time I raise it up the dot is right there but wish I had spent the extra to get the 507k for it as with my Rami I use the circle and dot reticle and find at close quarters I am quicker on target with the red dot. If that big circle is in the target a bullet is in the target.
4. With my short barreled pistols definitely true. Hopefully will never need but nice to know I can hit a head shot at 25+ yards
I find with aging eyes (66+) I have more trouble focusing on the front sight than I used to. Red dot helps and will likely be adding more to my pistols.
This is my primary reason for wanting to give red dots a try. My eyes aren't what they used to be.
Anything that follows a sentence that starts like this is always pure BS.
So far I am really liking it. I like that it is thin and compact but not to small for my hand. I wasn't interested in the Hellcat line until they came out with the Pro. It has been my EDC since I got it. The wife has a Glock 43X that I like but we had to change the mag release and buy the SA Mags to get to 15 rounds. The Hellcat does that right out of the box.
Thank you. I'm really leaning toward the Hellcat Pro, but I may have to rent one of those and a Sig 365XL to test side by side.
I usually shoot at Midwest Shooting Center in Ft Wayne. I believe they have both of those guns. I have not shot the 365. I had an M17 and didn't care for the trigger at all. We put a ghost trigger bar in the 43X which improved it quite a bit. I do not plans to modify the Hellcat. I was back and forth on the red dot because I really like the factory sights they use on them.
