Started thinking about storing my soon to purchase firearms as well as larger quantities of ammunition due to reloading. I realize that what I am referring to is technically not a true safe, but for the sake of the thread let us leave it at that.
I am looking for people's opinion and experiences with something like the Liberty Centurion. I live on the second floor of my apt complex and regularly haul 250-300lb pinball machines upstairs. I would like to cap it at that, I have managed more, but after the dr pepper machine I would rather not have to.
My main reason for wanting it is two-fold. In the past I have stored my firearms in soft cases, in the closet. The ammunition is in the same closet. For the most part I would have a couple thousand rounds of .22lr. Occasionally I would have 50-100 rounds of 9mm, 357, or 30 carbine. Since I am looking to reload I could easily see myself keeping 500 rounds loaded for each caliber I own at any one time. The safe won't stop a well prepared criminal, but it could keep an unprepared one out. It is too bulky to carry easily carry out, and knocking it over would cause a huge racket.
The second is a little bit of fire protection. Insurance can replace anything I buy at this point, but it would be nice to be able to store a few personal effects. I understand it is not as good as a quality document safe, but it is better then nothing which is what I currently have.
How do stable are these smaller "safes" when not bolted down? I am planning on setting it in a corner wedged next to my reloading bench, but I do not want to have to worry about someone bumping into it. The centurion is beefy, but it has a small footprint and looks like it could be a bit top heavy.
How well do they hold up on the inside? I find plenty people that are happy with their "safe", but there doesn't seem to be a lot of feedback about how well the inside holds up from use.
Any reason I shouldn't store ammunition inside the safe?
Is there anything int he 400 or less range that I should look at? I am looking for something that can store a handful of long guns (4 would be fine) and a couple of handguns (4-5). After I get that many I can look into spending more on a safe. I am looking for a manual lock, preferably no emergency key, and I do not want anything I can pickup by myself.
Are there any places besides lowes to keep on eye on for sales? I have been look at CL, but have not come across anything.
I am looking for people's opinion and experiences with something like the Liberty Centurion. I live on the second floor of my apt complex and regularly haul 250-300lb pinball machines upstairs. I would like to cap it at that, I have managed more, but after the dr pepper machine I would rather not have to.
My main reason for wanting it is two-fold. In the past I have stored my firearms in soft cases, in the closet. The ammunition is in the same closet. For the most part I would have a couple thousand rounds of .22lr. Occasionally I would have 50-100 rounds of 9mm, 357, or 30 carbine. Since I am looking to reload I could easily see myself keeping 500 rounds loaded for each caliber I own at any one time. The safe won't stop a well prepared criminal, but it could keep an unprepared one out. It is too bulky to carry easily carry out, and knocking it over would cause a huge racket.
The second is a little bit of fire protection. Insurance can replace anything I buy at this point, but it would be nice to be able to store a few personal effects. I understand it is not as good as a quality document safe, but it is better then nothing which is what I currently have.
How do stable are these smaller "safes" when not bolted down? I am planning on setting it in a corner wedged next to my reloading bench, but I do not want to have to worry about someone bumping into it. The centurion is beefy, but it has a small footprint and looks like it could be a bit top heavy.
How well do they hold up on the inside? I find plenty people that are happy with their "safe", but there doesn't seem to be a lot of feedback about how well the inside holds up from use.
Any reason I shouldn't store ammunition inside the safe?
Is there anything int he 400 or less range that I should look at? I am looking for something that can store a handful of long guns (4 would be fine) and a couple of handguns (4-5). After I get that many I can look into spending more on a safe. I am looking for a manual lock, preferably no emergency key, and I do not want anything I can pickup by myself.
Are there any places besides lowes to keep on eye on for sales? I have been look at CL, but have not come across anything.