April 15 National Tea Party Day

[SirRealism]

Who is really going to care? When such a small percentage actually pays almost all of the taxes robbery under color of law will be the norm as it is now. They have enough people suckling on the government teat that no amount of protest will dislodge them, and they know it.

Actually, if 90% of the public marched, it would make them take notice. Of course 90% is a ridiculous goal, but it's absurd to say we can't make a difference.

The point is that this movement is getting larger, and we're pretty damned optimistic about having an impact.

BTW, Greg Garrison and Dr. Bob Basso will be speaking at the Indy protest on 4/15. If you're not familiar with Dr. Basso, here he is in action:


YouTube - We The People Stimulus Package

 

[Go Devil]

If the "Tea Baggers" carried tomahawks to their protests they would gather more attention.

If they protested at the legislators homes, they would they could share their pain more effectivley.

If they chose to withold their taxes, they wouldn't need to leave their homes and would have the undivided attention of their elected officials.

Actions speak louder than words;
accurate action leaves no questions.

 

[truss1010]

I have been reading this forum and I have decided to lend perspective on this issue.

Guys, please get politically involved somehow whether it is the tea parties, truth activism or something else. It has become readily apparent that we have reached a "crossroad" where neutrality is quickly not becoming an option and the federal "menace" requires much attention. We all have to come together at this time and stand up for the idea of the "Bill of Rights/Constitution" or it is definitely going to get taken from us, then we will have nothing. I believe that this is the real force behind the tea party movement and those like it, protecting the rights of the free man and not the "New Man."

Civil Disobedience is the key, we need not violence unless unspeakably terrible events begin to occur.

In the mean time, arm yourselves with knowledge for it is the most powerful tool in any man/woman arsenal. This phenomena runs much deeper than any of us--including myself, could imagine.

 

[SirRealism]

It's quite easy to tell people what they're doing wrong. It takes no effort at all.

 

[Go Devil]

It's quite easy to tell people what they're doing wrong. It takes no effort at all.

I would much prefer critical assessment than a pat on the back.

If walking and mailing tea bag tabs is considered effort, it is understandable why we are where we are.

Do you know where your designated representatives receive their personal correspondence? Cell number?

Lead with some serious passion and provide your followers with critical information and your dreams will come to fruition.

Wander like cattle on their designated lawns and they will happily stamp you USDA approved!

I do not condone socialism, but these fellas understood.

 

[flagtag]

So - do you believe that we should go after them with guns? We should become militants? Terrorists? Criminals?

Yes, the government is wrong - but - they haven't attacked us using force - yet. It isn't time for violence. Hopefully, we will never see that day. "There is a time for everything and everything in it's time."

 

[Go Devil]

flagtag So - do you believe that we should go after them with guns? We should become militants? Terrorists? Criminals?

Yes, the government is wrong - but - they haven't attacked us using force - yet. It isn't time for violence. Hopefully, we will never see that day. "There is a time for everything and everything in it's time."

No


That's what we have been defined as and with the appropriate laws we will be.


If you continue repeating the same action, expect the same results.

 

[flagtag]

flagtag So - do you believe that we should go after them with guns? We should become militants? Terrorists? Criminals?

Yes, the government is wrong - but - they haven't attacked us using force - yet. It isn't time for violence. Hopefully, we will never see that day. "There is a time for everything and everything in it's time."

No


That's what we have been defined as and with the appropriate laws we will be.


If you continue repeating the same action, expect the same results.

Defined by who? The liberal leftists? Just words. We're not there yet.
And unConstitutional "laws" can be repealed - and as we have learned by our (IL) recent actions, government officials CAN be impeached/removed from office. We just have to get enough "voices" speaking together, loudly enough, (just as we did) we can get things done (currently) without violence.

While I have never served in the military, I have sworn an OATH to PRESERVE, PROTECT, and DEFEND the Constitution of the United States of America and my country against ALL enemies foriegn and DOMESTIC. And IF that time ever comes, I will do everything in my power to honor that OATH. It's not time.

 

[hunt3rsd3n]

Supporting the Tea Party!

 

[flagtag]

Supporting the Tea Party!

Amen!

 

[Go Devil]

Flagtag,

Mam, with all due respect, I am simply stating that our historical mode of protest is just that, history. And the long term codgers are deaf to it's noise.

Excessive tax is protested, but still paid.

Excessive programs are protested, but you still foot the bill.

Trillons of dollars are printed with unanimous protest, but you still pay for the ink.

Open borders and illegal immigration is protested, but you are more than happy to buy the cheap results of their labor.

Trade agreements are protested, but you still shop at WalMart.

The coffers, that our designated representatives cow to, are sucking energy from us like some Matrix nightmare; they laugh at our protests and we continue to ask for permission to voice our opinion.

They have bracketed and prescribed how we should protest so as not to cause discomfort to themselves.

If your group wants to make a parking lot in front of the state house, I'll will bring both of my cars.

If your group wants to stop paying taxes, I'll bring you my pay stub.

If your group want's to field INS, I'll stand on the corner and point.

I am with you, support you, and I write my representatives, but the normal form of protest needs to step into the 21st century.

Respectfully,
GD

 

[flagtag]

Flagtag,

Mam, with all due respect, I am simply stating that our historical mode of protest is just that, history. And the long term codgers are deaf to it's noise.

Excessive tax is protested, but still paid.

Excessive programs are protested, but you still foot the bill.

Trillons of dollars are printed with unanimous protest, but you still pay for the ink.

Open borders and illegal immigration is protested, but you are more than happy to buy the cheap results of their labor.

Trade agreements are protested, but you still shop at WalMart.

The coffers, that our designated representatives cow to, are sucking energy from us like some Matrix nightmare; they laugh at our protests and we continue to ask for permission to voice our opinion.

They have bracketed and prescribed how we should protest so as not to cause discomfort to themselves.

If your group wants to make a parking lot in front of the state house, I'll will bring both of my cars.

If your group wants to stop paying taxes, I'll bring you my pay stub.

If your group want's to field INS, I'll stand on the corner and point.

I am with you, support you, and I write my representatives, but the normal form of protest needs to step into the 21st century.

Respectfully,
GD

How many years did it take our Founding Fathers to get to the point of action? It's not done in weeks or months. All avenues have to be "walked" and warnings given before action is taken.
2010 will be a loud warning that - if there are enough wise citizens - will let the "power elite" "hear" our voices, and again in 2012.

I believe they already hear us. With the HUGE jump in firearm purchases and the "Tea Parties" going around the country - with many more planned, such as on Aprin 15, our voices are getting louder and they can't help but hear us. Why do you think Obama is pushing his "agenda" with such a rush? He hears us and knows that his days are numbered - that he is pushing to hard and we are getting angry. Even his supporters are making their displeasure known. He let them down. All his promoses were forgotten as soon as he attended his first party. (Maybe as soon as the last word was out of his lying mouth.)

Even those who thought that they would get a free ride with him in office are finding that his words were just a bid to gain the win. "The One" is rocking on his self-built pedistal and it's about to crumble. Good news is that some of the damage he has done can be undone if the citizens are wise enough to vote him out of office and don't forget his false promises.
Every time he does something, the people (even his "worshipers") see a little more clearly the phony power grabber that he is. He is putting (actually ALL of them) his own head in the noose.

We will all know IF the time for arms/violence comes. And if it does, it will come in degrees, building each time he screws up. (Again) Hopefully the LEGAL process will force him (ALL of them) out of office before such action is needed. (Either by the vote or impeachment)

WE have to do it right and not give "The One" an excuse to grab even more power. (Martial Law)

 

[indyfly]

T.
E.
A.
TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY

P.A.R.T.Y.

PLEASE ARRANGE RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR

Red Ryder> Organized to aggressively fight syndicated greed, organized mis-education, and the general vacuum of value and vision.

I am starting a book study.
5,000 Year Leap.
I have books at cost. 5$

Name of my small group is Red Ryder Cool Creek Branch
my meeting place is near 146th/Carey; TUES Mar 31

http://www.meetup.com/The-Indy-Defenders-of-Liberty/

 

[Go Devil]

“You don’t ever want a crisis to go to waste; it’s an opportunity to do important things that you would otherwise avoid.”

Rahm Israel Emanuel


Raise hell, accurately.

 

[SavageEagle]

Defined by who? The liberal leftists? Just words. We're not there yet.
*And unConstitutional "laws" can be repealed - and as we have learned by our (IL) recent actions, government officials CAN be impeached/removed from office. **We just have to get enough "voices" speaking together, loudly enough, (just as we did) we can get things done (currently) without violence.

***While I have never served in the military, I have sworn an OATH to PRESERVE, PROTECT, and DEFEND the Constitution of the United States of America and my country against ALL enemies foriegn and DOMESTIC. And IF that time ever comes, I will do everything in my power to honor that OATH. It's not time.

* = Don't count on it. The Bailouts can't be taken back. The budget can't be undone. Not after obamatard gets voted out in 4 years. The damage is already being done. We HAVE to stop it, now, or all this protesting is for nothing.

** = You discount the fact that there is a BIG group of people in this Country that 1) doesn't give a rats ass what they in Washington do as long as they can have their coke and snort it too, 2) never gave a damn about who runs this Country and what they do because they feel they're voice doesn't count and you can't change it, and 3) ACTUALLY AGREE WITH WHATEVER THEY DO!! It's hard to get a majority of the Country to scream all at once especially over things they don't or refuse to understand.

*** = I completely agree with you here. I will do the same, but as you said, that time has not come. However, that time IS quickly approaching. Conditions for this would fall into these Categories and three or more happen all at once or even over time, at least in my mind:

Making peace and giving amnesty to ANY terrorists and their Terrorist Nations. Abandoning Israel in their time of need/during invasion or attack. Allowing foriegn Countries/UN to dictate what we do and how we do it here in America. Passing an AWB into law again. Giving illegal peoples' amnesty, drivers licenses', citizenship, etc. Allowing a National Budget to pass that doubles our National Debt and puts us in debt to foriegn Countries.

These are unexceptable in my mind and there are many more but I don't have the time to think of all them right now. We cannot wait for them to take our life, our land, our property and then act.

Flagtag,

Man, with all due respect, I am simply stating that our historical mode of protest is just that, history. And the long term codgers are deaf to it's noise.

Excessive tax is protested, but still paid.

Excessive programs are protested, but you still foot the bill.

Trillons of dollars are printed with unanimous protest, but you still pay for the ink.

Open borders and illegal immigration is protested, but you are more than happy to buy the cheap results of their labor.

Trade agreements are protested, but you still shop at WalMart.

The coffers, that our designated representatives cow to, are sucking energy from us like some Matrix nightmare; they laugh at our protests and we continue to ask for permission to voice our opinion.

They have bracketed and prescribed how we should protest so as not to cause discomfort to themselves.

If your group wants to make a parking lot in front of the state house, I'll will bring both of my cars.

If your group wants to stop paying taxes, I'll bring you my pay stub.

If your group want's to field INS, I'll stand on the corner and point.

I am with you, support you, and I write my representatives, but the normal form of protest needs to step into the 21st century.

Respectfully,
GD

Well said! completely agree. Let's get something done about it.

*How many years did it take our Founding Fathers to get to the point of action? It's not done in weeks or months. All avenues have to be "walked" and warnings given before action is taken.
2010 will be a loud warning that - if there are enough wise citizens - will let the "power elite" "hear" our voices, and again in 2012.

**I believe they already hear us. With the HUGE jump in firearm purchases and the "Tea Parties" going around the country - with many more planned, such as on Aprin 15, our voices are getting louder and they can't help but hear us. Why do you think Obama is pushing his "agenda" with such a rush? He hears us and knows that his days are numbered - that he is pushing to hard and we are getting angry. Even his supporters are making their displeasure known. He let them down. All his promoses were forgotten as soon as he attended his first party. (Maybe as soon as the last word was out of his lying mouth.)

Even those who thought that they would get a free ride with him in office are finding that his words were just a bid to gain the win. "The One" is rocking on his self-built pedistal and it's about to crumble. ***Good news is that some of the damage he has done can be undone if the citizens are wise enough to vote him out of office and don't forget his false promises.
Every time he does something, the people (even his "worshipers") see a little more clearly the phony power grabber that he is. He is putting (actually ALL of them) his own head in the noose.

We will all know IF the time for arms/violence comes. ****And if it does, it will come in degrees, building each time he screws up. (Again) Hopefully the LEGAL process will force him (ALL of them) out of office before such action is needed. (Either by the vote or impeachment)

*****WE have to do it right and not give "The One" an excuse to grab even more power. (Martial Law)

* = waiting for an election is looking more and more like a non-possibility. If they (Fed gooberment) continues on their current path, they will have destroyed the Country by then.

** = Maybe they do hear us. That doesn't mean they care. Of course they're pushing their plans hard and fast now. Blitzkrieg anyone? Attack fast and hard and don't give the people time to collect their thoughts and react. We already know that the things they are doing closely resemble those of Stalin and Hitler. Keep in mind i said RESEMBLE. Hitler, Stalin, were VOTED into office and convinced the masses they were the only hope for their Country and THEN corruption took over. That's what's happening now. We can't allow it to continue. You can scream alone in a forest as loud as you want. No one will be listening.

*** = Like what? What can be undone without some kind of Revolution in this Country? You won't get enough people in Congress otherwise to undo the damage he's already done. Maybe boot out the UN, deport the illegals and close the borders, but you can't unspend the money he's spent and continuing to spend.

**** = The Revolution is already happening. It's been coming in degrees. We are reaching the tipping point as it's only a few hundred steps away and we're in a full dead sprint for our lives. I pay it never happens, but i don't see how it can be avoided.

***** = We can't stop Martial Law. Only the military can. Right now there are only a minority in the military ***that we know of*** that will stand against it. If we have a real terrorist attack (or even a made up one) I don't see any of them standing against it.

obamatard is going to grab as much power as he can no matter what we say. Our reps in Congress are just as stupid as he is and just as dangerous. Obviously our Court System won't be of much help either. They've very rarely stood up for our Constitution rather than "interpret" it.

“You don’t ever want a crisis to go to waste; it’s an opportunity to do important things that you would otherwise avoid.”

Rahm Israel Emanuel


Raise hell, accurately.

Yes, raise hell accurately. But be prepared to defend your actions to the world and SHOW why they are necessary.

It will be hard not having the full support of the people behind us, but I believe that it can be done.

 

[SirRealism]

What the left understands is that marketing does make a difference. Obama was elected based on a cult of personality and on the hatred for Bush. They had a consistent message, and they used media effectively to push that message. And it worked.

It's important for us to convince the nation at every opportunity that anti-bailout sentiment IS the majority opinion. We all know it is, and yet we haven't gotten that message across clearly enough. The more people they see at protests like the one on 3/25 and the upcoming 4/15 tea party protest, the more we can help shift the momentum in our favor. And we don't have to rely on the likes of Jim Shella to tell our message. We will record the events ourselves and show the real message.

Sure, this tea party doesn't have teeth like its namesake. But it's something that the general public can wrap their brains around; and the name is memorable.

Look, I understand that good people can disagree on the "right" way to get things done. But, despite obvious hatchet jobs like what channel 8 did, you can't deny that there are people sitting up and taking notice. If we get 10,000 people to attend the tea party on 4/15, then we're headed in the right direction.

To those who think this approach is wrong-headed, I understand your sentiment. But there's no escaping the fact that our message will be more powerful when we get more people involved. Millions of voices, saying something in unison, will be heard. If you want to call me naive, that's fine. I've noticed that the left is better than we are at setting aside their differences to achieve their goals; unfortunately for us, their marketing worked in 2008.

Imagine, if the media are expecting 2,000 people, and 50,000 of us show up. So the media are biased. Let's drown them out!! Let's determine for ourselves how we'll be represented to the public.

There's a very real possibility that the upcoming event in Indy will be one of the largest protests to date. We're getting attention from people at the national level. The folks organizing this are putting an amazing amount of their own time and money into organizing to make a difference. It won't be in vain.

 

[CraigMac]

I read an article about Basso in the video post & Obama has asked him to come to the Whitehouse to discuss his "disturbing videos",

 

[model67a]

Ayers

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Meach
They do realize that the original "tea party" involved destroying the property of the British...right?

no offense i just think dumping a bunch of tea you bought at the store onto fountains/canals/waterways isn't really doing the founding fathers justice. We need to remember that the guys who founded this country weren't afraid to kick a$$ and break Sh#t to get things changed.

Right now all this "tea party" stuff is, is material for late night comics and the daily show. Can't say i blame them seeing as one of these protests was advertised as "tea-bagging the white house".

The problem is, if you did that....you would be labeled a terrorist and detained

The problem is, if you did that....you would be labeled a terrorist and detained

I don't know. Bill Ayers did a whole lot worse than that and got away with it!!! stay safe

 

[flagtag]

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Meach
They do realize that the original "tea party" involved destroying the property of the British...right?

no offense i just think dumping a bunch of tea you bought at the store onto fountains/canals/waterways isn't really doing the founding fathers justice. We need to remember that the guys who founded this country weren't afraid to kick a$$ and break Sh#t to get things changed.

Right now all this "tea party" stuff is, is material for late night comics and the daily show. Can't say i blame them seeing as one of these protests was advertised as "tea-bagging the white house".

The problem is, if you did that....you would be labeled a terrorist and detained





I don't know. Bill Ayers did a whole lot worse than that and got away with it!!! stay safe

Yeah, but Ayers had "connections". His father was a member of the Chicago Machine and his case went no where there. Mafia rules!

 

[Go Devil]

"When young men seek to be like you, when lazy men resent you, when powerful
men look over their shoulder at you, when cowardly men plot behind your
back, when corrupt men wish you were gone and evil men want you dead . . .

Only then will you have done your share."​

Phil Messina