American Made Guns and Accessories

[sonovasailor]

With the Obamaconomy creating 10%+ unemployment with no end in sight. Isn't it about time we think about buying American made firearms and accessories? Smith & Wesson, Remington, Mossberg, Bushmaster, Ruger, Henry, even....ahem...Hi Point. We might want to think about an American's job before we purchase a new Taurus, Sig, Glock, Rossi, Browning, Beretta, etc. And don't forget ammo, scopes and mounts, cases, accessory rails. The list goes on and on. We get all patriotic and puffed up and say "DON'T TREAD ON ME", with a Glock in our pocket. Winchester used to be ALL AMERICAN!! Hell's bells it's owned by Europeans and made in Japan! AAAGH! I must admit, that I have bought my share of used foreign weapons in my life. Buy-sell-trade. But I am driving a stake down right now! All new guns, ammo, accessories, hunting clothes, you name it, will be American made.
PS. I pray that Obama becomes an unemployment statistic.

 

[Seancass]

I wish there was a list somewhere of what guns are actually made in the states. Half the "American" brands you listed sell foreign made guns and/or are foreign owned. I hope someone more knowledgeable than me has a list or can go into some detail.

Where do you find clothing made in the states? Heck, a lot of our food isn't even made or grown in the states. but then again, this is getting away from general guns.

 

[Principal Skinr]

I always try to buy American if it meets the following criteria:

1. It is of competitive quality with the competition.
2. It has competitive performance.
3. It is reasonably competitive in price.
4. It is as readily available as the competition.

I've bought all American made guns, so far, as well as accessories, with the exception of a Nikon Coyote Special scope.

I think American products get a bum rap. I've had great luck with lots of American products, including all of my firearms.

 

[Principal Skinr]

I wish there was a list somewhere of what guns are actually made in the states. Half the "American" brands you listed sell foreign made guns and/or are foreign owned. I hope someone more knowledgeable than me has a list or can go into some detail.

Where do you find clothing made in the states? Heck, a lot of our food isn't even made or grown in the states. but then again, this is getting away from general guns.

A firearm will say where it is made. Some will try to fool you. The Springfield XDs will say something like Sprinfield Arms, ?????, MA, USA, but the thing is not made in the USA. I think they are made in Croatia.

 

[tharlow514]

One problem is that America has become a nation of consumers instead of producers. China, India, and others have taken over the production for us. That is why it is important to support small American companies. But American companies have to be more competitive with prices. Of course our wonderful government is contributing to that by taxing business more than most companies in the world. Also, just because a gun company is foreign does not mean that it doesn't contribute to our economy. Some companies have manufacturing plants here in the states that hire American workers. Glock, Inc. for instance.

 

[Principal Skinr]

One problem is that America has become a nation of consumers instead of producers. China, India, and others have taken over the production for us. That is why it is important to support small American companies. But American companies have to be more competitive with prices. Of course our wonderful government is contributing to that by taxing business more than most companies in the world. Also, just because a gun company is foreign does not mean that it doesn't contribute to our economy. Some companies have manufacturing plants here in the states that hire American workers. Glock, Inc. for instance.

All true. It isn't always a simple equation any more.

 

[mkelsey]

A firearm will say where it is made. Some will try to fool you. The Springfield XDs will say something like Sprinfield Arms, ?????, MA, USA, but the thing is not made in the USA. I think they are made in Croatia.

Isnt there a huge roll mark right in the middle of the TOP of the slides that say SA/croatia on xd's, and xdm's? Seems like a silly place to "hide" it.

 

[fireball168]

We might want to think about an American's job before we purchase a new Taurus, Sig, Glock, Rossi, Browning, Beretta, etc.

Lets do think about an American's job, shall we?

How many folks do you figure are directly or indirectly employed in the US because of those companies and their products (whether or not they are manufactured in the US or not)?

Off the top of my head:

Marketing
Legal Counsel
Packaging Materials
Creative Design and Printing Companies
Shipping and Trucking
Governmental Affairs
Sales - Retail Dealer Support
Sales - LEO Support
Technical Support/Repair/Training
Trade Show Support - Construction, Setup, Takedown

Not to mention the entire retail body that are generating a profit in selling these products, and the people in their employ.


All of these companies are paying taxes and wages in the USA to workers that are paying taxes just like most of us.

Where the final point of assembly is for the product is irrelevant to me.


For a working rifle, I'd much rather have a Miroku built Winchester than most of the garbage that came out of New Haven over the last 20 years.

 

[dak109]

I started a thread a while back trying to come up with such a list. I will look for it and try to get it put in here. If some one better at that kinds of stuff can do it please have at it.

If I knew how to rep I would rep the OP

 

[pudly]

Smith & Wesson, Remington, Mossberg, Bushmaster, Ruger, Henry, even....ahem...Hi Point.

You left out Kahr, Keltec, and North American Arms (NAA).

 

[dak109]

Okay, hope this works.... https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/handguns/43542-made_in_america-3.html#post473461

If it doesn't work some one please help it out.

I started the list out of my head and others got into it also. You will have to read to get all that we came up with.

 

[ar15junkie]

Where do you find clothing made in the states?

USA Made Clothing Jeans and Shirts by All American

 

[6birds]

With the Obamaconomy creating 10%+ unemployment

Nope. He can't fix it, I'll give you that, but he didn't create it. Greed did, a temporary situation, but a serious one. The market needed to reset. It did. It is recovering nicely.

Isn't it about time we think about buying American made firearms and accessories? Smith & Wesson, Remington, Mossberg, Bushmaster, Ruger, Henry, even....ahem...Hi Point.

Nope, they don't provide the products I desire.

We might want to think about an American's job before we purchase a new Taurus, Sig, Glock, Rossi, Browning, Beretta, etc. And don't forget ammo, scopes and mounts, cases, accessory rails. The list goes on and on.

Yup, love those companies. They have worked hard and have taken risks to provide product that are the best, and I trade my hard earned cash for those fine products. Ahhhh Capitalism!!

We get all patriotic ...

So you're all for whining and market protection? How patriotic! Yup, that's what our soldiers have fought for!!

Congratulations, you've now brought us to the lowest possible level, the democrate's will be along shortly to confiscate your "Man Card".

I can see the ads now "Can't think, can't work? Turn inward and be bitter!! Ignore the hard work of the rest of the world and ***** at the successes of the "WORKING CLASS"!! America, home to mediocre, (since we gave up)!!

All new guns, ammo, accessories, hunting clothes, you name it, will be American made.

If you really meant it, you'd throw them all away now. Damned those successful capitalists!! Damned them all!! (sarcasm font needed)


PS. I pray that Obama becomes an unemployment statistic.

Don't wish him out now, if you give up, you'll need a good government program to support you, you know, if you can't compete.

Merry Christmas, I'm going to the gun room to clean my Glocks, Berettas, and Brownings.

 

[Lars]

so where do you put Sigs.... most of them are manufactured by Exeter Arms right here in the US......

 

[LEaSH]

Even if your computer has an AMD processor - how much of the device you're using right now is of united states origin?

Look, it's important to make the effort to buy domestically when possible. Heck, buy locally when it makes sense. But if there is a fine product made by a craftsman outside of the U.S., I'm going to give it a fair shot.
I've made a vow to avoid chinese goods at all costs. That's a lot more difficult than it sounds. Firearms and equipment, no problem. Everything else in the world seems to have a chinese competitor.

 

[Cygnus]

So where do you all think the profits go when we buy foreign made products?

The profits go to the country where the companies are based. This is true not only for guns but cars, elctronics, clothing, washing machines, etc.



They may employ some American workers at their plants but the "real" money goes to the home country......

 

[wtfd661]

With the Obamaconomy creating 10%+ unemployment

Nope. He can't fix it, I'll give you that, but he didn't create it. Greed did, a temporary situation, but a serious one. The market needed to reset. It did. It is recovering nicely.

Isn't it about time we think about buying American made firearms and accessories? Smith & Wesson, Remington, Mossberg, Bushmaster, Ruger, Henry, even....ahem...Hi Point.

Nope, they don't provide the products I desire.

We might want to think about an American's job before we purchase a new Taurus, Sig, Glock, Rossi, Browning, Beretta, etc. And don't forget ammo, scopes and mounts, cases, accessory rails. The list goes on and on.

Yup, love those companies. They have worked hard and have taken risks to provide product that are the best, and I trade my hard earned cash for those fine products. Ahhhh Capitalism!!

We get all patriotic ...

So you're all for whining and market protection? How patriotic! Yup, that's what our soldiers have fought for!!

Congratulations, you've now brought us to the lowest possible level, the democrate's will be along shortly to confiscate your "Man Card".

I can see the ads now "Can't think, can't work? Turn inward and be bitter!! Ignore the hard work of the rest of the world and ***** at the successes of the "WORKING CLASS"!! America, home to mediocre, (since we gave up)!!

All new guns, ammo, accessories, hunting clothes, you name it, will be American made.

If you really meant it, you'd throw them all away now. Damned those successful capitalists!! Damned them all!! (sarcasm font needed)


PS. I pray that Obama becomes an unemployment statistic.

Don't wish him out now, if you give up, you'll need a good government program to support you, you know, if you can't compete.

Merry Christmas, I'm going to the gun room to clean my Glocks, Berettas, and Brownings.

So because the OP wants to support this country by purchasing only from American companies, your going to become a smarta$$ and question his patriotism. Sorry pal but I agree with buying from American companies and strengthening our country, you go ahead and buy from whomever you want but when your job lays you off cause they can't compete with companies from overseas (and their cheap labor) lets see how well your smarta$$ feeds you.

 

[sonovasailor]

Ok guys. I see alot of lip service. Buy a Glock, a Miroku, what ever. Send American money to Austria, Japan, Brazil. I don't want to hear BOO-HOO's when your job goes south or overseas like Winchester. Their pre-64 weapons were the highest quality. Sounds like some of you are selective about your patriotism. It's sad

 

[dwh79]

With the Obamaconomy creating 10%+ unemployment with no end in sight. Isn't it about time we think about buying American made firearms and accessories? Smith & Wesson, Remington, Mossberg, Bushmaster, Ruger, Henry, even....ahem...Hi Point. (Remington sells foriegn made guns and uses foriegn parts as I am sure others do as well) We might want to think about an American's job before we purchase a new Taurus, Sig, Glock, Rossi, Browning, Beretta, etc.(Some of these are assembled here in the US due to the gun laws here in the US at least handguns are) And don't forget ammo, scopes and mounts, cases, accessory rails. The list goes on and on. We get all patriotic and puffed up and say "DON'T TREAD ON ME", with a Glock in our pocket. Winchester used to be ALL AMERICAN!! Hell's bells it's owned by Europeans and made in Japan! AAAGH! (Winchester is just a name that is owned by olin and leased the name to a european company) Oh yeah thank the unions for losing some of that work in New England as well I must admit, that I have bought my share of used foreign weapons in my life. Buy-sell-trade. But I am driving a stake down right now! All new guns, ammo, accessories, hunting clothes, you name it, will be American made.
PS. I pray that Obama becomes an unemployment statistic.

Now I do agree with trying to buy American whenever possible but remember things are not always as they seem. We must do what we can to support the American work and American companies. However don't get angry just do what you can and encourage others by showing the benefits you got by buying American. I have spent more for a Ithaca Shotgun out of Ohio for that reason as well as loving older guns that are great examples of American manufacturing. I also love my Glocks (Smyrna, GA Assembly), Sig Sauers (NH Assembly), Walther (Maine Assembly). I am sure you can find a buyer here for those foreign guns on here. Oh yeah and my spelling is horrible thank my teachers.

 

[U.S. Patriot]

Understand what the op is trying to say. The majority of my Guns excluding my Xd, and Beretta are not made in the U.S. However typicaly, but not always foriegn ammo tends to be cheaper. Like Rural king as PMC 9mm for $11.99. Yeah I can drive to Seymour, and buy Blazer for $15.00. That's $3.00 a box plus gas. With the economy, I will find a better deal whenever I can. Now if the economy wasd strong, and the cost of living was down, then I would have no problem paying more for certain products.