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.25 auto carry pistol.....better than nothing?
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A 25 is better than nothing. Chances are when/if you shoot some one with a 25 and its not a fatal shot, they're going to think twice about continuing the attack.
People always ask me why I CC a 380. They say 22, 25, 32, and 380's are only going make someone mad if you shoot them with it and won't do hardly any damage. Yet, when I ask if I can shoot them to see what the effect is, they never let me.
People always ask me why I CC a 380. They say 22, 25, 32, and 380's are only going make someone mad if you shoot them with it and won't do hardly any damage. Yet, when I ask if I can shoot them to see what the effect is, they never let me.
Thanks for all the interesting responses. I'll probably just go with my gut and get either a glock 22 or the new xdm 40. had a glock23 years ago and it was just too small a grip for my hand. The slide always seemed to hit the webbing between my thumb and index finger when doing speed drills from a concealed holster.
I Have Your Answer!
I have applied mathematics to your question and have found the perfect answer.
The average .25 ACP cartridge has a muzzle energy of 64.93 ft/lbs.
Let's say that your firearm is a .25 sub-compact pistol. The average weight of this class of pistol is 13.57 oz. empty, which is to say it weighs 5,936.88 grains. If you could throw it at 75 mph, which is far slower than Major League baseball pitchers throw a fast ball, that velocity works out to be 110 fps, and will yield 160.35 ft/lbs of energy on your target.
This tells us that you will have a much higher energy on target if you just become more proficient in throwing your empty .25 caliber handgun. (Please be sure to remove the ammunition from the handgun before throwing to avoid an accidental discharge... Safety first.)
.25 ACP Cartridge
Projectile weight - 45 gr
Projectile velocity - 804 fps
Projectile energy - 64.93 ft/lbs
Thrown Handgun
Projectile weight - 5,936.88 gr
Projectile velocity - 110 fps
Projectile energy - 160.35 ft/lbs
Behold The Power of Mathematics!
Check it out for yourself: http://www.classifiercalc.com/misc_calcs/me.php
Safety Notice - Whether it is shot or thrown, you can still put an eye out with a .25 caliber handgun!
I have applied mathematics to your question and have found the perfect answer.
The average .25 ACP cartridge has a muzzle energy of 64.93 ft/lbs.
Let's say that your firearm is a .25 sub-compact pistol. The average weight of this class of pistol is 13.57 oz. empty, which is to say it weighs 5,936.88 grains. If you could throw it at 75 mph, which is far slower than Major League baseball pitchers throw a fast ball, that velocity works out to be 110 fps, and will yield 160.35 ft/lbs of energy on your target.
This tells us that you will have a much higher energy on target if you just become more proficient in throwing your empty .25 caliber handgun. (Please be sure to remove the ammunition from the handgun before throwing to avoid an accidental discharge... Safety first.)
.25 ACP Cartridge
Projectile weight - 45 gr
Projectile velocity - 804 fps
Projectile energy - 64.93 ft/lbs
Thrown Handgun
Projectile weight - 5,936.88 gr
Projectile velocity - 110 fps
Projectile energy - 160.35 ft/lbs
Behold The Power of Mathematics!
Check it out for yourself: http://www.classifiercalc.com/misc_calcs/me.php
Safety Notice - Whether it is shot or thrown, you can still put an eye out with a .25 caliber handgun!
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With information listed above, I would suggest that you carry a rock!!! Definitely keep the .25 as a family heirloom, it'll retain value for you as a memory...and you'll be safer.
If it doesn't say ".357" on it, I don't carry it. Everyone has their personal preference, mine is a .357! I know it only goes bang five (5) times, but it strikes exactly where I'm pointing it. If I need more than five (5) shots, I need a hole in the ground. Thank goodness Sig Sauer helped develop the .357SIG...now I have an automatic that says ".357" on it. End of story!
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With information listed above, I would suggest that you carry a rock!!!
You only think you are kidding. On the few times I have been unable to have a gun and knife on me, I usually had a couple of rocks in my pockets.
Sounds like my little .22 auto might be a more effective choice given the opinions stated in many responses though.
NO!
If you are going to use a rimfire for self defense, get a double action revolver. And furthermore it should be a .22 Magnum.
Ammunition failure (failure to feed, failure to fire, failure to extract, failure to eject) are far too common in semi-auto .22's especially the ones sized for carry. I simply can't recommend it.
It's arguable as to which round is "better", .22LR or .25ACP for self defense (I would take the .25ACP). But when you can get a Kel-Tec P-32 or P-3AT, Bersa Thunder .380 for $250 or less, then it really becomes difficult to recommend a .22 or .25 at all. Also consider that a P-11 or PF-9 can be had for $300 or less.
