2025 Legislative Session Thread

[jwamplerusa]

I have kicked off this legislative session correspondence with a letter to Representatives Lucas, Mayfield, and Smaltz; and Senator Aaron Freeman.

The themes and requested actions revolved around amending Indiana's emergency authority for the executive. Reinvigorating firearms training within our public schools and support of the Constitutional duties of the militia. A better and deeper education on both the US and Indiana constitutions. Amending our red flag law to have more protections against false reporting, and stopping non-adjudicated forfeiture.

What will be the primary focus of ISRPA this legislative session?

My hope is a strong push to fix Nantz. The best outcome would be strong protection for use of force in protection of property used for livelihood, primary residence, and transportation.

I also hope, on a non firearms related basis, that Indiana can get its budget in order after blowing projected expenses quite badly over the last two years. If Indiana does not do a better job on both projection of revenue and expense, our surplus will be quickly gone reducing us to no better than blue states.

 

[KellyinAvon]

I have kicked off this legislative session correspondence with a letter to Representatives Lucas, Mayfield, and Smaltz; and Senator Aaron Freeman.

The themes and requested actions revolved around amending Indiana's emergency authority for the executive. Reinvigorating firearms training within our public schools and support of the Constitutional duties of the militia. A better and deeper education on both the US and Indiana constitutions. Amending our red flag law to have more protections against false reporting, and stopping non-adjudicated forfeiture.

What will be the primary focus of ISRPA this legislative session?

My hope is a strong push to fix Nantz. The best outcome would be strong protection for use of force in protection of property used for livelihood, primary residence, and transportation.

I also hope, on a non firearms related basis, that Indiana can get its budget in order after blowing projected expenses quite badly over the last two years. If Indiana does not do a better job on both projection of revenue and expense, our surplus will be quickly gone reducing us to no better than blue states.

I'll field the ISRPA question since that is in my lane. If Nantz v. State gets a hearing in the House we'll drive a stake through it's heart. A bill to do that has passed the Senate 3 times. One Wendy McNamara has managed to kill it in the House since she chairs the committee it is assigned.

There is a reason there are now Co-Directors of Government Affairs in the ISRPA. I do what I do (rally the troops, provide a draft to send to the Senators/Reps, testify at the Statehouse, attempt to mass the forces of NRA/ISRPA/2A Project/INGO.)

I AM NOT, repeat, NOT a person who goes and meets the politicians in their office or at the local martini bar. That is not my thing and gin is disgusting. However, the other Co-Director for Government Affairs is Jerry Torr who was a State Rep for like 26 years. He does do that stuff, plus he knows where the bodies are buried.

My Intel sources are telling me we might be on defense with "safe storage" laws. If one gets a hearing, you better believe I'll be rallying the troops.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

 

[BigMoose]

Things on my list this year.

Repeal the no car sales on Sunday thing. Yes I know Kelly in Avon loves this, but dammit. The last of the Blue Laws need to GO.
Repeal the statute about ballistic knife thing

plus he knows where the bodies are buried.

My Intel sources are telling me we might be on defense with "safe storage" laws. If one gets a hearing, you better believe I'll be rallying the troops.

Ahh HELL no...

First this is Indiana. The bodies of opponents go in the Canal.

Second. There isn't any way we need safe storage laws.

Third, when the Shendig kicks off in January. I will be back with my infamous kabitzing, and posting of compromising screenshots. Stay off Camera if you don't want your face all over Ingo. Just ask Chief Scumbag! Also stay tuned, you never know if ole Vernon Shush will turn up this time? Did anyone ever find him?

 

[Malware]

I AM NOT, repeat, NOT a person who goes and meets the politicians in their office or at the local martini bar. That is not my thing and gin is disgusting.

You should give vodka a try

 

[KellyinAvon]

You should give vodka a try

Not for a very long time. An occasional high-rye bourbon.

 

[jwamplerusa]

Not for a very long time. An occasional high-rye bourbon.

See, Kelly in Avon has good taste!

 

[KellyinAvon]

Wheels are turning on one issue, hopefully this is the year.

 

[BigMoose]

Wheels are turning on one issue, hopefully this is the year.

We will be able to buy cars on Sunday?
The speed limit will get raised to 75?
The Ballistic Knife ban will be repealed?

 

[BigMoose]

Sometimes you just want to know all the unknown things...

 

[KellyinAvon]

We will be able to buy cars on Sunday?
The speed limit will get raised to 75?
The Ballistic Knife ban will be repealed?


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Ya know Norm...

I'm more positive than usual on getting Nantz v. State kicked to the curb.

We might be playing defense on some, storage bills might be getting a hearing.

We should be seeing the Amend the Indiana Constitution bill coming up again. It passed in 2023, has to pass in two different IGA sessions, then it will go to the ballot Sate-wide. Currently the only crimes that are "no bail" in Indiana are murder and treason. Yes, treason against the State of Indiana. Whoever wrote it back in 1816 was looking at a copy of
the US Constitution because it nearly mirrors it on treason.

In 2023 I went in to testify in opposition to the amendment because it was just too vague. Senator Koch comes up an amendment which was pretty much what I was going to recommend it say. About 10 seconds later I get called to testify. I think I said something along the lines of, "I'm cool with this now."

 

[JAL]

Just posted this in the 2024 Session Thread and noted the 2025 Thread is already active. It concerns Gary v. Glock and HEA 1235 that was supposed to kill the lawsuit . . . but it hasn't at trial court level (motion denied) and now it's on interlocutory appeal.

https://www.indianagunowners.com/threads/2024-legislative-session-thread.538959/post-10071914

 

[JAL]

Just posted this in the 2024 Session Thread and noted the 2025 Thread is already active. It concerns Gary v. Glock and HEA 1235 that was supposed to kill the lawsuit . . . but it hasn't at trial court level (motion denied) and now it's on interlocutory appeal.

https://www.indianagunowners.com/threads/2024-legislative-session-thread.538959/post-10071914

I've answered most of my own question letting my fingers tippy-tappy-type on a laptop keyboard, finally finding the website to search for the lawsuit and the minutes for the case (Case # 45D01-1211-CT-000233). First task was unearthing the trial court case number which every press report omits (arrgh).

Case # 45D01-1211-CT-000233 Case Minutes can be searched for here (search for the case #):
https://public.courts.in.gov/mycase/#/vw/Search
Tried to post a result URL and discovered it expires and becomes no good after a couple hours (arrgh).
You'll have to scroll down through 25 years of case minutes to get to the latest -- you'll eventually get to the end.

August 12th 2024 -- Order by Trial Judge Sedia Denying Motion to Dismiss
See attached PDF -- cannot link to it :-{

August 22nd 2024 -- Glock et al files Motion to Certify that would allow Interlocutory Appeal
See Attached PDF

September 9th 2024 -- City of Gary files response to Motion to Certify opposing it
See Attached PDF

September 9th 2024 -- Trial Judge grants Glock et al. Motion to Certify - starts 30 day clock for Glock et al. to file appeal
See attached PDF

September 20th 2024 -- Motion by Glock et al to Trial Court for stay of August 12th Order pending interlocutory appeal
See attached PDF

October 3rd 2024 -- City of Gary response to Glock's Stay Motion (urging Sedia to deny it) - Filed last Thursday.
See attached PDF
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October 9th 2024 Looming Deadline: Glock et al must perfect and file Interlocutory Appeal or they're barred from doing so. This is the 30 day time limit clock that began running when Judge Sedia granted Motion to Certify

Judicial Order on Glock's Motion to Stay Pending Appeal (which would halt discovery) also pending. Very likely will be issued next week.

I will continue posting any updates I have on Gary v. Glock in this thread unless told otherwise by the Powers that Be.

Additional Note:
Guess who the lead attorney is for Gary now [drum roll]. It's Jonathan Lowy, who was the Chief Counsel or Brady United until 2022. He's founded his own organization in 2022 of which he's its President. He's also the architect of and lead attorney for [wait for it] the Mexico v. Smith & Wesson (et al) lawsuit.

Gave the timeline of Motions and Judicial Orders to show how the wheels of justice relentless grind on -- albeit with considerable lethargy. It's akin to watching the Great Car of the Juggernaut. Gargantuan, very slow, but don't get in its path or you'll be flattened paper thin by it. (Trivia: Juggernaut is Hindu in origin from centuries ago)


Back to my Redneck Riviera blended bourbon and watching my recording of Trump's Butler, PA rally (which is enormous).