2016 Indiana Section Championship

[mattdennis3]

I would agree on this. The RM or MD can make the clarrification.

It depends on what the WSB says . I would guess you will have to perform a mag change between arrays for make ups, but that's just me

I feel like I should know this, but on stage 9 it's ok to go back to the first array you shot at if you need to make up a shot right?

Per Rule 1.2.2.3


1.2.2.3 Speed Shoot-Courses of fire consisting of one continuous string of fire not exceeding 16 rounds shot on one or more arrays of multiple targets from a single location or view. The written stage briefing may specify engaging arrays of targets without violating rule (1.1.5), as long as the competitor is allowed to engage said arrays in any order, and individual target engagement is not specified. No more than eight rounds may be required without a mandatory reload and no more than one mandatory reload may be required in the course of fire. Weak/Strong hand may be stipulated after the reload is complete. Stage may be scored either Comstock or Virginia Count. See Rule 9.2.3.2.


Based on how the rule reads, we can't require more than 1 reload for a speed shoot, so we can't make it say you must reload to re-engage misses.

 

[blkrifle]

I would agree on this. The RM or MD can make the clarrification.

look in your new rule book

 

[blkrifle]

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[Tanfodude]

Per Rule 1.2.2.3


1.2.2.3 Speed Shoot-Courses of fire consisting of one continuous string of fire not exceeding 16 rounds shot on one or more arrays of multiple targets from a single location or view. The written stage briefing may specify engaging arrays of targets without violating rule (1.1.5), as long as the competitor is allowed to engage said arrays in any order, and individual target engagement is not specified. No more than eight rounds may be required without a mandatory reload and no more than one mandatory reload may be required in the course of fire. Weak/Strong hand may be stipulated after the reload is complete. Stage may be scored either Comstock or Virginia Count. See Rule 9.2.3.2.


Based on how the rule reads, we can't require more than 1 reload for a speed shoot, so we can't make it say you must reload to re-engage misses.

 

[rvb]

Per Rule 1.2.2.3

Based on how the rule reads, we can't require more than 1 reload for a speed shoot, so we can't make it say you must reload to re-engage misses.

or....
you could read that rule to say there is only one "mandatory" reload in the stage. Everyone is required to do that reload to complete the stage. If you screw the pooch and put yourself in a position you have to do more reloads to comply w/ the WSB, that's on you. Only one is "mandatory" by the WSB, the others are, well, "optional" based on how the shooter decides to shoot the stage.

This is a pretty standard interpretation, depending on WSB wording.

-rvb

 

[Grelber]

Anything in there about whether you need to use cover?

 

[rvb]

Anything in there about whether you need to use cover?

only in inclement weather. 2.3.5

 

[rhino]

Anything in there about whether you need to use cover?

Unlike IDPA, there are no rules about use of cover in USPSA. It's a non-issue.

 

[riverman67]

Unlike IDPA, there are no rules about use of cover in USPSA. It's a non-issue.

I think he was joking... Mr. serious
I still have your hat. It is almost recovered from the trip

 

[mattdennis3]

or....
you could read that rule to say there is only one "mandatory" reload in the stage. Everyone is required to do that reload to complete the stage. If you screw the pooch and put yourself in a position you have to do more reloads to comply w/ the WSB, that's on you. Only one is "mandatory" by the WSB, the others are, well, "optional" based on how the shooter decides to shoot the stage.

This is a pretty standard interpretation, depending on WSB wording.

-rvb

I take it that you've seen me shoot speed shoots before... there are always "optional" reloads built in to my stage plans.

 

[mongo404]

When it says a mandatory reload between arrays. Steel is 1 array and paper is another array correct?

 

[Grelber]

I think he was joking...

Evidently doing a crap job of it though.

 

[mongo404]

To clarify what I said. They did say at The SS nationals on a speed shoot that you had to do a reload to re engage the other array. So why cant we do it if they did it? Just saying

 

[Bosshoss]

Stage 9 WSB might need to be clarified.
When a mandatory reload is required between arrays you have to reload(again) to reengage targets in a previously shot array.
Hint: Do the math and I believe you will find that skipping the reload to go back to a previously shot array will be just about a wash ie: Procedural vs reload time. As long as you only fire 1 makeup shot.

Start position on 9 needs to be clarified for the idiots that shoot Revolver. Start with a unloaded gun or just remove 1 from the clip and place under the hammer(which will not do anything when the buzzer goes off)?

 

[cschwanz]

Just add "Must perform a mandatory reload when switching arrays"

 

[rhino]

I think he was joking... Mr. serious
I still have your hat. It is almost recovered from the trip

Ah, I did not know that. Thank you for the clarification, sir.

We should meet this week or next to transfer the traveling hat!

 

[riverman67]

OK

 

[jakemartens]

Ah, I did not know that. Thank you for the clarification, sir.

We should meet this week or next to transfer the traveling hat!

Wasn't that a movie

 

[riverman67]

Wasn't that a movie

Nope
you're thinking of teenage girls and pants

 

[mongo404]

Stage 9 WSB might need to be clarified.
When a mandatory reload is required between arrays you have to reload(again) to reengage targets in a previously shot array.
Hint: Do the math and I believe you will find that skipping the reload to go back to a previously shot array will be just about a wash ie: Procedural vs reload time. As long as you only fire 1 makeup shot.

Start position on 9 needs to be clarified for the idiots that shoot Revolver. Start with a unloaded gun or just remove 1 from the clip and place under the hammer(which will not do anything when the buzzer goes off)?

But to be a good MD you have to be a "D" So I would say 1 per shot fired..