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13 year old with AK
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i believe if i understood my class sufficiantly, it is ok for a minor to be in possesion of a rifle only if he is under supervision of a guardian or parent, relative. even an adult friend does not count.
so they could get him for possession if he had no supervision. or like someone said it was stolen as well.
EDIT what i dont like about the article is they make it sound like it was illegal just b/c it was an AK-47
so they could get him for possession if he had no supervision. or like someone said it was stolen as well.
EDIT what i dont like about the article is they make it sound like it was illegal just b/c it was an AK-47
IC 35-47-10-5
Dangerous possession of a firearm
Sec. 5. A child who knowingly, intentionally, or recklessly:
(1) possesses a firearm for any purpose other than a purpose described in section 1 of this chapter; or
(2) provides a firearm to another child with or without remuneration for any purpose other than a purpose described in section 1 of this chapter;
commits dangerous possession of a firearm, a Class A misdemeanor. However, the offense is a Class C felony if the child has a prior conviction under this section.
As added by P.L.140-1994, SEC.12. Amended by P.L.203-1996, SEC.4
IC 35-47-10-1
Exemptions from chapter
Sec. 1. This chapter does not apply to the following:
(1) A child who is attending a hunters safety course or a firearms safety course or an adult who is supervising the child during the course.
(2) A child engaging in practice in using a firearm for target shooting at an established range or in an area where the discharge of a firearm is not prohibited or supervised by:
(A) a qualified firearms instructor; or
(B) an adult who is supervising the child while the child is at the range.
(3) A child engaging in an organized competition involving the use of a firearm or participating in or practicing for a performance by an organized group under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code that uses firearms as a part of a performance or an adult who is involved in the competition or performance.
(4) A child who is hunting or trapping under a valid license issued to the child under IC 14-22.
(5) A child who is traveling with an unloaded firearm to or from an activity described in this section.
(6) A child who:
(A) is on real property that is under the control of the child's parent, an adult family member of the child, or the child's legal guardian; and
(B) has permission from the child's parent or legal guardian to possess a firearm.
(7) A child who:
(A) is at the child's residence; and
(B) has the permission of the child's parent, an adult family member of the child, or the child's legal guardian to possess a firearm.
As added by P.L.140-1994, SEC.12. Amended by P.L.1-1995, SEC.78; P.L.203-1996, SEC.2.
Dangerous possession of a firearm
Sec. 5. A child who knowingly, intentionally, or recklessly:
(1) possesses a firearm for any purpose other than a purpose described in section 1 of this chapter; or
(2) provides a firearm to another child with or without remuneration for any purpose other than a purpose described in section 1 of this chapter;
commits dangerous possession of a firearm, a Class A misdemeanor. However, the offense is a Class C felony if the child has a prior conviction under this section.
As added by P.L.140-1994, SEC.12. Amended by P.L.203-1996, SEC.4
IC 35-47-10-1
Exemptions from chapter
Sec. 1. This chapter does not apply to the following:
(1) A child who is attending a hunters safety course or a firearms safety course or an adult who is supervising the child during the course.
(2) A child engaging in practice in using a firearm for target shooting at an established range or in an area where the discharge of a firearm is not prohibited or supervised by:
(A) a qualified firearms instructor; or
(B) an adult who is supervising the child while the child is at the range.
(3) A child engaging in an organized competition involving the use of a firearm or participating in or practicing for a performance by an organized group under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code that uses firearms as a part of a performance or an adult who is involved in the competition or performance.
(4) A child who is hunting or trapping under a valid license issued to the child under IC 14-22.
(5) A child who is traveling with an unloaded firearm to or from an activity described in this section.
(6) A child who:
(A) is on real property that is under the control of the child's parent, an adult family member of the child, or the child's legal guardian; and
(B) has permission from the child's parent or legal guardian to possess a firearm.
(7) A child who:
(A) is at the child's residence; and
(B) has the permission of the child's parent, an adult family member of the child, or the child's legal guardian to possess a firearm.
As added by P.L.140-1994, SEC.12. Amended by P.L.1-1995, SEC.78; P.L.203-1996, SEC.2.
So as long as he had a hunting license, and was on his way to hunt, he would be ok. I was just curious because I used to drive myself to shoot clays when I was under 18. So all he has to do is say that he was on his way to the range for a competition shoot.???
Discuss? OK.
Thirteen years old? According to the law, this is a problem. For reasons I will go into, I disagree.
Walking the streets. So what? No harm here.
AK-47 "assault rifle". If this is true, he and/or his parent(s) have some big problems, because an "assault rifle", by definition, is capable of select-fire. Far more likely, this was an AK-pattern, semi-auto rifle.
11:30 AM. Middle of the day. Not like he was up to any mischief.
38th @ Emerson. I don't know Indy that well. Is that a good, bad, or "meh" neighborhood?
Half a dozen young men, loitering. If the business owner called, OK. If anyone else did, someone's being a busybody, based on what we have here, however....
Everyone but this kid ran when the cops showed up, and one, not the one described here, resisted. I think it's very telling that he didn't run, didn't fight, didn't do much of anything, at least not that's described here.
My questions would begin with why he had it. I'd also want to know if he had any ammo on him, but I doubt it, since the story didn't mention it.
If he had no ammo, it guarantees that the rifle was unloaded, although it might have been even if he did have ammo on him. If a family member or family friend had been or was going to be instructing him in the safe use of the rifle, he broke no law.
I sincerely hope, as his actions and lack thereof indicate, that he was not up to anything. The story makes it seem that he had no ill-intent, and I would hate to see his life ruined by some nimrod prosecutor out to make a name for himself at someone else's expense.
Blessings,
Bill
Thirteen years old? According to the law, this is a problem. For reasons I will go into, I disagree.
Walking the streets. So what? No harm here.
AK-47 "assault rifle". If this is true, he and/or his parent(s) have some big problems, because an "assault rifle", by definition, is capable of select-fire. Far more likely, this was an AK-pattern, semi-auto rifle.
11:30 AM. Middle of the day. Not like he was up to any mischief.
38th @ Emerson. I don't know Indy that well. Is that a good, bad, or "meh" neighborhood?
Half a dozen young men, loitering. If the business owner called, OK. If anyone else did, someone's being a busybody, based on what we have here, however....
Everyone but this kid ran when the cops showed up, and one, not the one described here, resisted. I think it's very telling that he didn't run, didn't fight, didn't do much of anything, at least not that's described here.
My questions would begin with why he had it. I'd also want to know if he had any ammo on him, but I doubt it, since the story didn't mention it.
If he had no ammo, it guarantees that the rifle was unloaded, although it might have been even if he did have ammo on him. If a family member or family friend had been or was going to be instructing him in the safe use of the rifle, he broke no law.
I sincerely hope, as his actions and lack thereof indicate, that he was not up to anything. The story makes it seem that he had no ill-intent, and I would hate to see his life ruined by some nimrod prosecutor out to make a name for himself at someone else's expense.
Blessings,
Bill
Frank_N_Stein
Grandmaster
11:30am, shouldn't he have been in school? AFAIK the school year isn't over for IPS.
38th & Emerson: A ****hole. That intersection and the immediate area has been the scene of several homicides. All of the businesses at the intersection have been robbed at least once.
Kids loitering, at least one with an AK: See above.
if that is the truth, i need to slap someone.
LOL you think like me
It is probably the only picture they have on file. The real rifle would have already been placed into the property room as evidence.It's what they showed. I have no idea what really happened though, only saw the picture and caught the end of the story. I aint lying really I aint....
ChalupaCabras
Expert
My father allowed me access to this kind of weaponry when i was that age... but my access was through him, and I operated them under his supervision.
There is a reason 13 year old children are considered minors. The truth is that most 18 year old kids are not truly mature enough to be granted adult status... I fully support children being exposed to firearms in an structured and supervised context, but allowing one so young unrestricted access to said weaponry is a grave failure. Since theft has not been confirmed, the more likely assumption is that a family member failed to secure the weapon.
There is a reason 13 year old children are considered minors. The truth is that most 18 year old kids are not truly mature enough to be granted adult status... I fully support children being exposed to firearms in an structured and supervised context, but allowing one so young unrestricted access to said weaponry is a grave failure. Since theft has not been confirmed, the more likely assumption is that a family member failed to secure the weapon.
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