I still don't buy into it's ok to stop someone because they have a gun on their hip.
That is the same as if they would have stopped me on the way out to check me and make sure I didn't steal something. Same reason cops sit outside of bars at closing time and follow someone. They can't pull them over till they give them reason to. Like I said in the OP I'm not wanting to test the system and be detained longer than flashing the pink. My neighbor the full time sherriff said most full time cops know better because they don't want to get the pound sand answer for stopping someone for no reason.
Officers can not stop you and demand for ID/LTCH, open carry or not, if they do not have reasonable and articulable suspicion that you have commited, are committing, or about to commit a crime. Period!
So the fact that a LEO sees me driving my car is a reasonable suspicion of me driving without a license?
This is why you don't trust Internet lawyers.Actually courts have said that just carrying a gun is not reasonable suspicion to stop someone
True. Courts in jurisdictions with constitutional open carry, like Arizona. Those courts do not have jurisdiction here in Indiana. If we had the ability to open carryActually courts have said that just carrying a gun is not reasonable suspicion to stop someone
Correct. However, carrying a firearm in Indiana is a crime. Your license makes you an excepted person. If they spot a handgun, they have the authority to ask for your permission slip, according to Indiana law. It's been stated several times in this thread.Officers can not stop you and demand for ID/LTCH, open carry or not, if they do not have reasonable and articulable suspicion that you have commited, are committing, or about to commit a crime. Period!
Would it be a stretch to assume that you didn't actually read through the thread before you posted this?Actually courts have said that just carrying a gun is not reasonable suspicion to stop someone
Yeah, if you furnish name and DOB, you don't have to show it. Or you can show it after the arrest so it's not filed
I have been stop twice and just told the LEO my LTCH number. He called it in to verify it and sent me on my way.Yeah, if you furnish name and DOB, you don't have to show it. Or you can show it after the arrest so it's not filed