Why All Guns Are Always Loaded: It's NOT Just You

[Kirk Freeman]

All guns are always loaded.

Say it and you'll start a fist fight on INGO because Four Rules are old and busted, because my new way is the one true way, inter alia.

Why does it matter? Because we are not alone in the world. It is not just "me, me, me, me, me".

We need to realize that we are not alone and how we handle firearms reflects on us all. A subculture regulates itself or it is regulated from the outside.

Pa. trooper's pregnant wife dies in accidental shooting

1. The Four Rules always apply.

2. Get a sand barrel and stop waving guns around.

 

[88E30M50]

Thanks for the reminder Kirk. The idea that a gun can be unloaded is step 1 in the 'How to have a negligent discharge' playbook.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

The political consequences are reduced as the person who thought that all guns are not always loaded here drips with qualified immunity, however, I would not want to pay the mortgage and interest on shooting a pregnant wife because I thought the Four Rules were old and busted!

 

[femurphy77]

What was it that the DEA agent said just before he shot himself in the foot? Oh I remember; "I'm the only one qualified here to handle a loaded firearm."

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Of course all guns are always loaded, but I wonder who the first person was to think that designing a gun that required you to pull the trigger to disassemble it was a good idea.

 

[SERparacord]

He found out it wasn't his kid, look at the savings in lawyer fees.

 

[Bunnykid68]

Guess I have been doing it wrong all these years. I treat all guns as if they are loaded even if I know they are not.

 

[henktermaat]

Didn't we have this conversation years ago?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Didn't we have this conversation years ago?

No, this just happened Friday, March 7th.

 

[Dirtebiker]

"The couple's two young children were in the home at the time and were unharmed."
Yeah right!

 

[9mmfan]

Complacency has killed a lot of people. I make it a point to never unload my gun unless I plan on target shooting or cleaning it. No exceptions.

 

[Dirtebiker]

Complacency has killed a lot of people. I make it a point to never unload my gun unless I plan on target shooting or cleaning it. No exceptions.

Allegedly, that's what he was doing.

 

[IndyGal65]

I just posted a thread about a guy who recently shot a large hole in his hand because he did not clear his weapon first. He dropped the mag then pulled the trigger to disassemble the gun for cleaning. He had apparently grown up with and used guns his whole life. Just goes to show that rule #1 is #1 for a good reason.

 

[ATM]

All guns are always loaded.

Say it and you'll start a fist fight on INGO because Four Rules are old and busted, because my new way is the one true way, inter alia...

Nonsense. That first rule is the only thing old and busted, and ignoring it or ditching it altogether will never cause a tragedy.

Violation of the other 3 is always the cause of these negligent tragedies. Always.

Why all the focus on the old busted nonsense when a real rule was violated? It was not pointed in a safe direction.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

The political consequences are reduced as the person who thought that all guns are not always loaded here drips with qualified immunity, however, I would not want to pay the mortgage and interest on shooting a pregnant wife because I thought the Four Rules were old and busted!

How does qualified immunity enter into an accidental shooting while cleaning a gun, and presumably not engaged in an official action?

 

[Tombs]

Of course all guns are always loaded, but I wonder who the first person was to think that designing a gun that required you to pull the trigger to disassemble it was a good idea.

Could be worse.

Could require depressing a lever and pulling the trigger to decock.
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I don't have an issue with pulling the trigger to disassemble. If you don't have a safe direction to point your firearms, you need to invest in a sand barrel.

 

[Gluemanz28]

I'm in KF's court with the Big 4. My Daughter got rid of all toy guns in her house. 3,5,& 6 yr old boys.

 

[Dirtebiker]

I'm in KF's court with the Big 4. My Daughter got rid of all toy guns in her house. 3,5,& 6 yr old boys.

Why get rid of them instead of teaching them right from wrong?
You know, getting rid of them just makes them that much more intriguing!

 

[Vince49]

Simple,cheap insurance.

Homemade clearing barrel.

And my assistant confirming that it is indeed unloaded and clear prior to proceeding.

 

[DeadeyeChrista'sdad]

Your assistant has mouse breath.