Which Side Of This Struggle Are You On?

[RAnderson]

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]1776 AND TODAY: IT IS TIME TO REFRESH THE TREE OF LIBERTY[/FONT]​

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]By Greg Evensen[/FONT]​

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]March 5, 2009[/FONT]


[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]I have just finished watching two of my favorite motion pictures, “The Patriot” with Mel Gibson and “Red Dawn.” Although produced in liberal Hollywood, they did capture—in our imaginations—at least, the view that some Americans, at the time when their country and countrymen needed them the most, responded courageously to tyranny and evil with personal determination and great sacrifice.[/FONT]

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Collectively, we are brutally aware of the death of our once great Republic over the past few decades, slowly at first, and then with a swiftness that takes your breath away. We have seen a vital, productive, and unique culture raped, pillaged, and brutalized by the most traitorous group of government and business officials ever assembled. These blathering idiots have taken the nation from riches, glory, and moral leadership, to the depths of despair, poverty and lawlessness. Our nation has been used to kill and maim on a scale that deserves no justification or excuse. We continue to support evil regimes that keep the Mideast in turmoil and in suffering that knows no end. After generations of resisting communism, we have allowed a socialist foreign national to become president. We have worshipped this false god in the White House and allowed him and his collaborators to steal our destiny with worthless trillions issued by organized crime banking families at the private Federal Reserve.[/FONT]

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]As a result of Washington’s declaration of economic, political, cultural, and psychological war on the citizens of this nation, we all have to contemplate the words of our original Declaration of Independence, and what may have to be considered as our collective response to this outrageous and wholly unacceptable chain of events in our beloved land.[/FONT]

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Let me be more specific. The events of the past six months have necessitated that we plan for immediate action against the maniacs running the government in Washington and a few of the states as well. As I see it, we have been forced to plan for any number of possibilities as a result of this theft of our Republic. The options are limited and fall into two categories of response. [/FONT]

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]The first is relatively peaceful and has some limited potential for success. It would include the reassertion of solid state sovereignty bills as have been introduced by at least 20 states (at this writing). Such a move would shut out the government’s attempts to force states to sign on to this socialist nonsense in the guise of “change” by comrade Obama. It would also recapture much lost ground in the battle to allow citizens and their respective states to plan for and pursue true Republic ideals. It would build a wall of separation from the power mad traitors in Washington that has not been present or workable since the early days of this nation. Lastly, it could diffuse any attempts by Washington to invade the states (remember 1861?) for daring to chart their own destiny. At that point, the criminal Obama, like the criminal Lincoln, would be facing an armed populace that would not be fighting over a contrived justification (black slavery), but would be in armed rebellion against the global elite’s well underway plan for national slavery.[/FONT]



[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]However, I believe that failing the efforts of the several states to “fight the government” through 10th amendment legislation, the second alternative would meet the test of our original Declaration of Independence. In that regard, I believe that the time to “refresh the tree of liberty with the blood of patriots and tyrants” has arrived. This reality is no longer in doubt. It is not the wild ranting of a few paranoid gun nuts, either. Millions of citizens, police officers and military troops have been converted to the fact that our nation has succumbed to decades of treason and a sell-out to international conspiracies by our own government that has brought us to this moment. The people of the United States of America did not go out looking for trouble. They did not conspire to resist a central government so cold and intimidating as to rival the Third Reich, the Kremlin, Beijing, or Tel Aviv. Quite the contrary, Americans have endured—as our Declaration stated, “a long train of abuses…” that have delivered us to the doorstep of rebellion once again. [/FONT]

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]When you are being victimized, bullied, forced into desperation by the acts of someone else, you are more than justified in resisting with all of your ability and with any weapon at your disposal for as long as it takes to win. Likewise, we must return this government to real benevolence and moral, legal authority under the constitution. It is as simple as that. We have the right, indeed the obligation to THROW OFF this government and to do so with no goal but that of absolute victory and vindication for true patriots who have faithfully stood guard over the founder’s precepts. Others among us will have to be dealt with. Choices will have to be made by many. Changes will be reinstituted that reflect our nation’s moral absolutes as enacted by Christian men and women who will honor the precepts of a Godly national heritage. We have not been a “nation under God” for many generations. To claim God’s blessings while we scorn His righteous standards is the ultimate hypocrisy. The Pledge and one nation “under God,” or money with “In God we trust,” are all relics of a past we no longer occupy. Until we drastically change our hearts and lives, let’s not further erode our credibility with God, with each other or a watching world.[/FONT]​

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Read this most carefully. I do NOT advocate armed REBELLION. I DO advocate armed self-defense of our lives, families, homes, properties, assets, and a truly constitutionally lawful nation. I advocate an uncompromising demand of the federal government to relinquish their immoral and unlawful plan to bankrupt, destroy and condemn this nation to living as a P.O.W. of the New World Order. I further advocate complete defiance in the face of usurpers masquerading as legislators, who have stolen and robbed our nation through force, (unread and undisclosed law) by a completely corrupt and dangerous federal bureaucracy. IF THE GOVERNMENT FAILS TO RESPOND OR DENIES OUR DEMANDS, THEN----IT IS TIME TO FIGHT!! It is way past time to take our Republic back!! [/FONT]​

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Whether you are part of a state militia, a minuteman type organization, a posse where called by courageous and constitutionally literate county sheriffs, or simply citizen soldiers who heed the call to defend the nation, you must answer the call to duty that has been sounded.[/FONT]​

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Texas may be the first battleground state in this second war for independence. The all-out war that has erupted there pitting the Mexican police, Mexican nationals, and border residents in the states against the most ruthless gang of drug pirates and thugs to ever assemble is underway. [/FONT]​

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]The United States government has chosen to abandon its first obligation to the people, that is, the defense of the borders and security for its citizens. It is the chief reason government exists at all. The ignorant and failed president George W. Bush let our borders languish for eight long years. The sex pervert Bill Clinton did the same for eight more years. CFR insider and CIA stooge George H.W. Bush did no better. They all did it because it was a planned conspiracy by the Globalists to merge our North American nations after destroying them from within. And now we have the savior of the socialist world, Barack (foreign born, one-world advocate, baby killing, terrorist coddling, black radical following, CFR team leader) Obama selling out not only our nation, but our borders as well. [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Since the lesbian witchcraft queen at the state department sold what was left of the USA to China, we have now been carefully positioned in the middle of the bull’s eye. Really, they have all made it much easier for us. As General Anthony McAuliffe said during WWII when cut off by the Germans. “Surrounded? Now I can fire in all directions at once.” [/FONT]​

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Who is the enemy? I’ll tell you again precisely who they are. It is any and every last person who advocates for one world rule. It is every last politician who has voted to bankrupt this nation “legally” through bailouts and sellouts across the board. It is also every last person in this country who has signed on to the support of socialism, or has profited from the financial ruin of hardworking citizens. It is the purveyor of drug smuggling, pornography, and the groups who justify lifestyle perversion. It is the thieving business owner and the pharmaceutical killers who have turned many of us into drug addicts. Further, it is the dumbed down public school teacher and corrupted lawyer, as well as the church leader who hasn’t opened a Bible or preached anything worthwhile in a decade. [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Lastly, it is any of the rest of us who have been too cowardly to do anything except complain, lie to others, and deceive ourselves into believing that the government is the answer for everything. It is time to draw those battle lines deep in the heart and soul of every patriotic American who will answer the call to now end the tyranny that has choked us for decades.[/FONT]​

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]So, you don’t like what I have said? Then you should know which side of the line you are on. Are you intellectually capable of understanding that we are in a state of war? Your job, your family, your home, your community, your nation and your ultimate destiny are on the line at this moment. Unless you are willing to change your attitudes, your allegiances, your lifestyle and your heart, you are a future casualty. You will leave the rest of us, but that will be your choice. To stay behind and expect the rest of us to do your work while you support this criminal regime is the ultimate betrayal of your fellow citizens.[/FONT]​

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]To fight along side the Texans or other besieged Americans at the latest version of the Alamo is what it is all about. To take on the Global Elites and their ilk wherever they may be found is the most honorable thing we can do on behalf of our nation, at this appointed time in history.[/FONT]​

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]The time is now. The objective is clear. The way is most difficult. The goal is honorable and necessary. The alternative is unthinkable. Are you ready? Then take on the full armor of God. Steady……..FREEDOM![/FONT]
© 2009 Greg Evensen - All Rights Reserved​

 

[haldir]

Makes a guy want to run down there and try to help out. Good read.

 

[Agent 007]

I find it interesting that some posters here feel that armed revolution is around the corner. We do well in the US to manage a 55% voter turnout. The 2008 election was a 62% turnout, which was the highest in decades. Clearly, a large segment of the population doesn't really care what the government does, as long as the electricity flows, the toilets flush, gas is cheap and we are kept up to date on the exploits of Paris Hilton.

Barring an extraordinary game-changing event, I think life will go on as usual. Did hundreds of thousands of protesters in the streets stop the Iraq war? No. Life went on, and the government did what the government wanted to do. There was strong opposition to the stimulus bills. Result? The stimulus bills passed (with not one senator or rep reading them), and life goes on. People are not going to risk their air-conditioned lives to take up arms against an abstract concept like a "one world order."

I think now is the time for vigilance and preparation. The call to arms (who ya gonna shoot?) is premature and reckless.

 

[haldir]

I find it interesting that some posters here feel that armed revolution is around the corner. We do well in the US to manage a 55% voter turnout. The 2008 election was a 62% turnout, which was the highest in decades. Clearly, a large segment of the population doesn't really care what the government does, as long as the electricity flows, the toilets flush, gas is cheap and we are kept up to date on the exploits of Paris Hilton.

I won't disagree with your prediction of nothing much actually happening but I am not sure of the above. I know a few people that don't vote and have asked them why they don't. It isn't so much that they don't care, they just don't think their participation will make any difference. They think that all politicians are corrupt, there isn't any real difference among any of them. They think most of the elections are rigged and they will all turn out the way it is planned. That is the most common comments I have heard.

 

[Agent 007]

I won't disagree with your prediction of nothing much actually happening but I am not sure of the above. I know a few people that don't vote and have asked them why they don't. It isn't so much that they don't care, they just don't think their participation will make any difference. They think that all politicians are corrupt, there isn't any real difference among any of them. They think most of the elections are rigged and they will all turn out the way it is planned. That is the most common comments I have heard.

Sounds like they've accepted their fate and resigned themselves to living under a corrupt government. Whether they don't care, or they've accepted defeat, the result is the same. As long as the basic necessities are in place, along with a little entertainment (bread and circuses), life will continue to go on. I can think of nothing, short of a nuclear strike against us or an invasion by an enemy, that will substantially change the way government operates.

 

[right winger]

To quote Patrick Henry

What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!
Patrick Henry - March 23, 1775

 

[dburkhead]

To quote Patrick Henry

What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!
Patrick Henry - March 23, 1775

I think the full speech might be appropriate here:

No man thinks more highly than I do of the patriotism, as well as abilities, of the very worthy gentlemen who have just addressed the House. But different men often see the same subject in different lights; and, therefore, I hope it will not be thought disrespectful to those gentlemen if, entertaining as I do opinions of a character very opposite to theirs, I shall speak forth my sentiments freely and without reserve. This is no time for ceremony. The questing before the House is one of awful moment to this country. For my own part, I consider it as nothing less than a question of freedom or slavery; and in proportion to the magnitude of the subject ought to be the freedom of the debate. It is only in this way that we can hope to arrive at truth, and fulfill the great responsibility which we hold to God and our country. Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offense, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country, and of an act of disloyalty toward the Majesty of Heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings.

Mr. President, it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it.

I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging of the future but by the past. And judging by the past, I wish to know what there has been in the conduct of the British ministry for the last ten years to justify those hopes with which gentlemen have been pleased to solace themselves and the House. Is it that insidious smile with which our petition has been lately received? Trust it not, sir; it will prove a snare to your feet. Suffer not yourselves to be betrayed with a kiss. Ask yourselves how this gracious reception of our petition comports with those warlike preparations which cover our waters and darken our land. Are fleets and armies necessary to a work of love and reconciliation? Have we shown ourselves so unwilling to be reconciled that force must be called in to win back our love? Let us not deceive ourselves, sir. These are the implements of war and subjugation; the last arguments to which kings resort. I ask gentlemen, sir, what means this martial array, if its purpose be not to force us to submission? Can gentlemen assign any other possible motive for it? Has Great Britain any enemy, in this quarter of the world, to call for all this accumulation of navies and armies? No, sir, she has none. They are meant for us: they can be meant for no other. They are sent over to bind and rivet upon us those chains which the British ministry have been so long forging. And what have we to oppose to them? Shall we try argument? Sir, we have been trying that for the last ten years. Have we anything new to offer upon the subject? Nothing. We have held the subject up in every light of which it is capable; but it has been all in vain. Shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication? What terms shall we find which have not been already exhausted? Let us not, I beseech you, sir, deceive ourselves. Sir, we have done everything that could be done to avert the storm which is now coming on. We have petitioned; we have remonstrated; we have supplicated; we have prostrated ourselves before the throne, and have implored its interposition to arrest the tyrannical hands of the ministry and Parliament. Our petitions have been slighted; our remonstrances have produced additional violence and insult; our supplications have been disregarded; and we have been spurned, with contempt, from the foot of the throne! In vain, after these things, may we indulge the fond hope of peace and reconciliation. There is no longer any room for hope. If we wish to be free-- if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending--if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained--we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of hosts is all that is left us!

They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable--and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come.

It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace-- but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!

It was not some groundswell of opinion among a majority of the colonials that led to the revolutionary war, but a rather small group angered by what they perceived as injustices. As Samuel Adams said:

It does not take a majority to prevail... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.

I continue to hope that the revolution this country so desperately needs can be had peacefully because the other kind tends to be too destructive even when it "succeeds."

 

[spider]

Barring an extraordinary game-changing event, I think life will go on as usual.
So, what is going on now, the game has already began.

 

[Walter Zoomie]

...[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]lesbian witchcraft queen...[/FONT]

 

[Blue Tile Spook]

Clearly, a large segment of the population doesn't really care what the government does, as long as the electricity flows, the toilets flush, gas is cheap and we are kept up to date on the exploits of Paris Hilton.

For me, I don't base my life's decisions on what "a large segment of the population" does or does not do. I do what I know and feel is right to do for me and my family. The quote, I regret that I have only one life to give." comes to mind for me quite often. The person that that quote is attributed to always sounded like he was in a minority of persons trying to do what was right, no popular.

People are not going to risk their air-conditioned lives to take up arms against an abstract concept like a "one world order."

I do not advocate armed revolution as a first resort, rather as a last resort. Now that I have said that, I will also say that I will protect my property and my life to whatever extent is needed in a time of unrest. I hope for all of our sakes that the U.S. does not ever experience another internal war. If we do I think that we will have enough veterans scattered throughout the U.S. with the training and tactics to make life rough for anyone that wants to bump heads with the "tame" populace.

I think now is the time for vigilance and preparation. The call to arms (who ya gonna shoot?) is premature and reckless.

I have not seen a call for arms to be raised against our government on INGO, but I have seen many here encouraging other members to make sure they are prepared, where prepared means ready for anythingthat may occur in their lives whether it be a natural disaster, man-made disaster, personal defense against someone that means to do them serious bodily harm, etc.

I am not belittling you whether you were a veteran or not, but I see many members on INGO that would help one another during any type of disaster, and as a last resort, and would take up arms against the government if it were required. And let me be clear here, required means that our society's liberty and security were seriously at risk. I am not sure from the sound of your post whether you are one of those members or not. If you are, I'll see you at the next We Surround Them meeting. If you're not, that's okay. I'll do my best to defend you if or when it comes to that.

Chicken Little, I am not.

 

[Chefcook]

We haven't had a real President in this country since JFK. Everyone since has been nothing more than a pawn under the control of the elitist bankers and the Federal Reserve. Everything continues to go as they have planned. Those who do not see this are fools that are blind to the facts and the truth.

With the new electronic voting systems our votes are no more real than our money backed by nothing. Our votes are nothing more than ghosts in a machine. That can be manipulated at a whim. Our votes will not determine the outcome of any future election.

There is no vote, no demonstration no amount of letters that can be written, no voice that will change the path we are on.

Nothing will be done until we are more enslaved than we already are. There are few people left alive that have ever even known what it was to be free. Our freedoms have been regulated and contorted far beyond what would have constituted all out armed revolt to our forefathers. Yet we still call ourselves a free nation. My 77 year old mother said to me a few years ago. " Son you young people have no idea, I see them take away your rights every day and you do nothing. You don't know what it is to be free. When I was a little girl, We had freedom but even then we were not truly free. One day you will wake up to find you have no freedom left at all."

The American people as a whole have no idea. They are too busy scurrying about their pitiful meaningless useless lives to take notice. And when they do have a glimmer of vision they quickly dismiss it as. Well nothing I can do its not my problem, it doesn't effect me why should I care.

There are many that preach freedom but few who are willing to make any sacrifice for it. One example of this would be a recent discussion here about a common law that is without a doubt unconstitutional. The general response was just pay the money and do what your told or I am not willing to become the test case and spend 30 or 40 thousand dollars in the court system to try and change it. And once you pay your little tax so you can legally exercise your constitutional right you never again bother with rather its right or wrong as you have already conformed.

What I am trying to say is this. People take the path of least resistance. A person will change when the pain of remaining the same outweighs the pain of the change.

The ultimate sacrifice has already been made in places like Ruby Ridge and Waco. And is still being made everyday by our fellow Americans all along our southern border. But these things don't directly effect us so we do nothing. We do nothing because we are not willing to give up our cumphy beds and our high speed internet fast food cable television lives to defend against these tyrannies. It is much easier to bitch and moan and do nothing and live the lie we have created for ourselves.

I ask you this. How many men here right now would quit their job(if your lucky enough to still have one) and take up arms and travel to Texas or Arizona to defend our southern border? (Without pay or compensation.) How many men here would give up their life to defend the freedom or rights of their next door neighbor, if it didn't directly relate or infringe upon your own rights?

How many men here would be willing to lay their lives on the alter of freedom, against all odds with seemingly little chance of victory? With only your faith in God and love of freedom to guide and warm you at night?

I for one scream indignantly into the night for all to hear. I regret that I have but one life to give in defense of the constitution of the United States Of America and of those she was created to protect. Give me freedom or give me death...

 

[Chefcook]

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]1776 AND TODAY: IT IS TIME TO REFRESH THE TREE OF LIBERTY[/FONT]​

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]By Greg Evensen[/FONT]​

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]March 5, 2009[/FONT]


[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]I have just finished watching two of my favorite motion pictures, “The Patriot” with Mel Gibson and “Red Dawn.” Although produced in liberal Hollywood, they did capture—in our imaginations—at least, the view that some Americans, at the time when their country and countrymen needed them the most, responded courageously to tyranny and evil with personal determination and great sacrifice.[/FONT]

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Collectively, we are brutally aware of the death of our once great Republic over the past few decades, slowly at first, and then with a swiftness that takes your breath away. We have seen a vital, productive, and unique culture raped, pillaged, and brutalized by the most traitorous group of government and business officials ever assembled. These blathering idiots have taken the nation from riches, glory, and moral leadership, to the depths of despair, poverty and lawlessness. Our nation has been used to kill and maim on a scale that deserves no justification or excuse. We continue to support evil regimes that keep the Mideast in turmoil and in suffering that knows no end. After generations of resisting communism, we have allowed a socialist foreign national to become president. We have worshipped this false god in the White House and allowed him and his collaborators to steal our destiny with worthless trillions issued by organized crime banking families at the private Federal Reserve.[/FONT]

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]As a result of Washington’s declaration of economic, political, cultural, and psychological war on the citizens of this nation, we all have to contemplate the words of our original Declaration of Independence, and what may have to be considered as our collective response to this outrageous and wholly unacceptable chain of events in our beloved land.[/FONT]

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Let me be more specific. The events of the past six months have necessitated that we plan for immediate action against the maniacs running the government in Washington and a few of the states as well. As I see it, we have been forced to plan for any number of possibilities as a result of this theft of our Republic. The options are limited and fall into two categories of response. [/FONT]

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]The first is relatively peaceful and has some limited potential for success. It would include the reassertion of solid state sovereignty bills as have been introduced by at least 20 states (at this writing). Such a move would shut out the government’s attempts to force states to sign on to this socialist nonsense in the guise of “change” by comrade Obama. It would also recapture much lost ground in the battle to allow citizens and their respective states to plan for and pursue true Republic ideals. It would build a wall of separation from the power mad traitors in Washington that has not been present or workable since the early days of this nation. Lastly, it could diffuse any attempts by Washington to invade the states (remember 1861?) for daring to chart their own destiny. At that point, the criminal Obama, like the criminal Lincoln, would be facing an armed populace that would not be fighting over a contrived justification (black slavery), but would be in armed rebellion against the global elite’s well underway plan for national slavery.[/FONT]



[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]However, I believe that failing the efforts of the several states to “fight the government” through 10th amendment legislation, the second alternative would meet the test of our original Declaration of Independence. In that regard, I believe that the time to “refresh the tree of liberty with the blood of patriots and tyrants” has arrived. This reality is no longer in doubt. It is not the wild ranting of a few paranoid gun nuts, either. Millions of citizens, police officers and military troops have been converted to the fact that our nation has succumbed to decades of treason and a sell-out to international conspiracies by our own government that has brought us to this moment. The people of the United States of America did not go out looking for trouble. They did not conspire to resist a central government so cold and intimidating as to rival the Third Reich, the Kremlin, Beijing, or Tel Aviv. Quite the contrary, Americans have endured—as our Declaration stated, “a long train of abuses…” that have delivered us to the doorstep of rebellion once again. [/FONT]

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]When you are being victimized, bullied, forced into desperation by the acts of someone else, you are more than justified in resisting with all of your ability and with any weapon at your disposal for as long as it takes to win. Likewise, we must return this government to real benevolence and moral, legal authority under the constitution. It is as simple as that. We have the right, indeed the obligation to THROW OFF this government and to do so with no goal but that of absolute victory and vindication for true patriots who have faithfully stood guard over the founder’s precepts. Others among us will have to be dealt with. Choices will have to be made by many. Changes will be reinstituted that reflect our nation’s moral absolutes as enacted by Christian men and women who will honor the precepts of a Godly national heritage. We have not been a “nation under God” for many generations. To claim God’s blessings while we scorn His righteous standards is the ultimate hypocrisy. The Pledge and one nation “under God,” or money with “In God we trust,” are all relics of a past we no longer occupy. Until we drastically change our hearts and lives, let’s not further erode our credibility with God, with each other or a watching world.[/FONT]​

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Read this most carefully. I do NOT advocate armed REBELLION. I DO advocate armed self-defense of our lives, families, homes, properties, assets, and a truly constitutionally lawful nation. I advocate an uncompromising demand of the federal government to relinquish their immoral and unlawful plan to bankrupt, destroy and condemn this nation to living as a P.O.W. of the New World Order. I further advocate complete defiance in the face of usurpers masquerading as legislators, who have stolen and robbed our nation through force, (unread and undisclosed law) by a completely corrupt and dangerous federal bureaucracy. IF THE GOVERNMENT FAILS TO RESPOND OR DENIES OUR DEMANDS, THEN----IT IS TIME TO FIGHT!! It is way past time to take our Republic back!! [/FONT]​

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Whether you are part of a state militia, a minuteman type organization, a posse where called by courageous and constitutionally literate county sheriffs, or simply citizen soldiers who heed the call to defend the nation, you must answer the call to duty that has been sounded.[/FONT]​

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Texas may be the first battleground state in this second war for independence. The all-out war that has erupted there pitting the Mexican police, Mexican nationals, and border residents in the states against the most ruthless gang of drug pirates and thugs to ever assemble is underway. [/FONT]​

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]The United States government has chosen to abandon its first obligation to the people, that is, the defense of the borders and security for its citizens. It is the chief reason government exists at all. The ignorant and failed president George W. Bush let our borders languish for eight long years. The sex pervert Bill Clinton did the same for eight more years. CFR insider and CIA stooge George H.W. Bush did no better. They all did it because it was a planned conspiracy by the Globalists to merge our North American nations after destroying them from within. And now we have the savior of the socialist world, Barack (foreign born, one-world advocate, baby killing, terrorist coddling, black radical following, CFR team leader) Obama selling out not only our nation, but our borders as well. [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Since the lesbian witchcraft queen at the state department sold what was left of the USA to China, we have now been carefully positioned in the middle of the bull’s eye. Really, they have all made it much easier for us. As General Anthony McAuliffe said during WWII when cut off by the Germans. “Surrounded? Now I can fire in all directions at once.” [/FONT]​

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Who is the enemy? I’ll tell you again precisely who they are. It is any and every last person who advocates for one world rule. It is every last politician who has voted to bankrupt this nation “legally” through bailouts and sellouts across the board. It is also every last person in this country who has signed on to the support of socialism, or has profited from the financial ruin of hardworking citizens. It is the purveyor of drug smuggling, pornography, and the groups who justify lifestyle perversion. It is the thieving business owner and the pharmaceutical killers who have turned many of us into drug addicts. Further, it is the dumbed down public school teacher and corrupted lawyer, as well as the church leader who hasn’t opened a Bible or preached anything worthwhile in a decade. [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Lastly, it is any of the rest of us who have been too cowardly to do anything except complain, lie to others, and deceive ourselves into believing that the government is the answer for everything. It is time to draw those battle lines deep in the heart and soul of every patriotic American who will answer the call to now end the tyranny that has choked us for decades.[/FONT]​

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]So, you don’t like what I have said? Then you should know which side of the line you are on. Are you intellectually capable of understanding that we are in a state of war? Your job, your family, your home, your community, your nation and your ultimate destiny are on the line at this moment. Unless you are willing to change your attitudes, your allegiances, your lifestyle and your heart, you are a future casualty. You will leave the rest of us, but that will be your choice. To stay behind and expect the rest of us to do your work while you support this criminal regime is the ultimate betrayal of your fellow citizens.[/FONT]​

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]To fight along side the Texans or other besieged Americans at the latest version of the Alamo is what it is all about. To take on the Global Elites and their ilk wherever they may be found is the most honorable thing we can do on behalf of our nation, at this appointed time in history.[/FONT]​

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]The time is now. The objective is clear. The way is most difficult. The goal is honorable and necessary. The alternative is unthinkable. Are you ready? Then take on the full armor of God. Steady……..FREEDOM![/FONT]
© 2009 Greg Evensen - All Rights Reserved​

 

[Agent 007]

Nothing will be done until we are more enslaved than we already are. There are few people left alive that have ever even known what it was to be free. Our freedoms have been regulated and contorted far beyond what would have constituted all out armed revolt to our forefathers. Yet we still call ourselves a free nation. My 77 year old mother said to me a few years ago. " Son you young people have no idea, I see them take away your rights every day and you do nothing. You don't know what it is to be free. When I was a little girl, We had freedom but even then we were not truly free. One day you will wake up to find you have no freedom left at all."

I'm curious to know what rights your mother enjoyed that we do not have today, and what freedoms you have lost. I'm not being a smartass, I am genuinely curious to know. I don't really feel that I'm any less free than I've ever been (I'm 40 years old) in my life. I will admit that taxation is a problem, as the federal government grows beyond its original purpose. But I can't really identify any freedoms that I have lost over the years.

 

[Agent 007]

I am not belittling you whether you were a veteran or not, but I see many members on INGO that would help one another during any type of disaster, and as a last resort, and would take up arms against the government if it were required. And let me be clear here, required means that our society's liberty and security were seriously at risk. I am not sure from the sound of your post whether you are one of those members or not. If you are, I'll see you at the next We Surround Them meeting. If you're not, that's okay. I'll do my best to defend you if or when it comes to that.

Chicken Little, I am not.

I certainly understand the need for preparation for any type of disaster. My family and I are certainly well armed and can provide for our own defense, and the defense of our neighbors. My wife and I both are veterans, I was an MP and she was an NBC specialist.

I was just addressing what I see a lot of on this board. Not a call to arms, specifically (ie: meet up at x location with your weapons and ammo), but a general sense from some posters that we are on the verge of armed revolution. I just don't think that's the case.

 

[Chefcook]

I'm curious to know what rights your mother enjoyed that we do not have today, and what freedoms you have lost. I'm not being a smartass, I am genuinely curious to know. I don't really feel that I'm any less free than I've ever been (I'm 40 years old) in my life. I will admit that taxation is a problem, as the federal government grows beyond its original purpose. But I can't really identify any freedoms that I have lost over the years.

Simple things like your right to choose. Your right to bear arms. Ya know simple things from you have to wear a seat belt to drive a car to it becoming illegal to smoke a cigarette in public. Until a few years before I was born if you were of legal age you could walk into a sporting goods store and purchase a firearm and walk out with it no paper work no nothing. These are just a few quick examples off the top of my head, I remember it was the change in smoking laws that spurred her remarks.

The point is we are so regulated in what Big Brother will allow us to do that a person would be hard pressed to walk to the corner store without fracturing some sort of law. The licensing and registration of vehicles was originally voluntary and only offered to protect your property in case of theft. Now its a multi-billion dollar taxing system.

The freedom of choice is no longer ours. And like I said in my previous post,,,, smoking for instance say ok your not a smoker so you dont like it they make it illegal are you going to fight for me to have the freedom to make my own choice... No probably not. I personally do not agree with abortion and that is my choice I wouldn't do that. But I also will not force my view of it on another. A woman should be able to do as she wishes with her own body.

Theirs another thread on here about rather or not pot should be legal. Yes it should, it should be the choice of each individual as to what they wish to do. Who are you or anyone else to tell me or anyone else what we can or can not do if its an action that has minimal effect on the individuals surroundings. If I am not wearing my seat belt and you and I are involved in a car accident my choice has no bearing on your safety therefore its none of your business. But the government tells you, you have to wear it its for your own good. I say to the government F you I will decide what is for my own good its none of your business. And if you truly believe that laws like these are made because they are concerned about your welfare then you truly are naive. They only look at things in terms of dollars and cents. If you have a group of people in the public employ and their job description is lawmakers. What do you think they are going to do, their going to make laws as many as they can otherwise they would be out of work.

I am a 43 year old man. I am all grown up. I am honest and responsible, I care about my fellow man and would do anything to help someone in need or distress. I do not need nor do I wish for the government or anyone else to tell me I need to put my galoshes on before I go out because its raining. Maybe sometimes I like to play barefoot in the rain that is my choice. And by the way I would lay my life on the line to protect my neighbors rights even if it did not conform with my own views. I would do what was necessary to protect your right to choose, even if I didn't like your choice.

They start out doing little things they take baby steps over time it adds up and adds up until you no longer have any right to choose left.

Any way this isn't really what this thread was about. What it is about is the fact that the government has become too big and too powerful. They can and will do whatever they want and will continue to do so until the people stop being self centered little cowards and stand up for their constitutional rights. One more thing to think about. Why are the illegal aliens coming across the border not being stopped? The answer is because the government wants them. These are people that are satisfied with less that work hard for less the government needs them. The government needs them to replace us. Our choice is going to be, Fight and force change or conform and be ruled. It so far has been a passive invasion but an invasion none the less. An invasion sponsored by our own government...

 

[Richard]

Chef,

Our current situation reminds me of that whole: frog in a pot of water, sitting on a stove analogy.

Ya know how if the cook brings that water to a boil slowly enough, the frog will not jump out of it.

Well IMHO the water is starting to simmer, but no-one is jumping, and there are only a few frogs who are even bothering to croak in protest.

 

[Chefcook]

Chef,

Our current situation reminds me of that whole: frog in a pot of water, sitting on a stove analogy.

Ya know how if the cook brings that water to a boil slowly enough, the frog will not jump out of it.

Well IMHO the water is starting to simmer, but no-one is jumping, and there are only a few frogs who are even bothering to croak in protest.

I did not know that. I would have to say then that we have maybe more frogs than sheep. And that I now have a strange desire to cook a frog thanks a lot.

 

[HICKMAN]

YouTube - Constitution Revolution 2012

 

[Chefcook]

YouTube - Constitution Revolution 2012

I cant rep you right now. So here ya go..

 

[jeremy]

I cant rep you right now. So here ya go..

Got him repped for you!