What is the 922R law?

[Kase]

I recently bought a Saiga .223 Ak-47, and everywhere I go to buy a 30 round mag, they say it must comply with the 922R. I have no idea what that is, but I've been told a few things and it's done nothing but confuse me. Any help or some sort of definition would really help! Thanks!

 

[indykid]

In a nutshell, 922(r), now Title 27 CFR 478.39 states that you can not build any rifle or shotgun with more than 10 imported parts. And the mag counts as three parts, follower, body and floorplate.

Stupid rule, yep, about as bad as they come.

 

[indykid]

For reference:
Electronic Code of Federal Regulations:

 

[Kase]

Thanks a lot. I really don't understand why there would be such a stupid law. So if the mag is U.S. made, it shouldn't count as a foreign part correct?

 

[indykid]

That is correct. If the mag is US made, and has a removable floor plate and follower, it counts as three US parts.

Just remember, according to the law that keeps the universe safe, you can have as many US made parts as you want, but if you accidentally have 11 imported parts, the sun will explode ending life as we know it. Or worse, your rifle will become a baby killing machine. As long as you only have 10 or less imported parts, your rifle or shotgun can never hurt anyone.

Just ask George Bush the First, or any US Attorney General who has the last word on what is "sporting" and what is not. And then ask them why a US made part makes a weapon baby safe while an imported part can make it a baby killing machine.


Then ask them if they understand the meaning of "shall not be infringed".

 

[Kase]

HAHA thats hilarious. A very good point also. Thanks again for all your help!

 

[mammynun]

922r calculator

Just bought a Saiga 12, and found this useful...

Section 922r

 

[philagothon]

Based on the calculator, using a mag made here means that you only need one more American made part to be compliant. Stocks and triggers would be easy options. Have you done the AK conversion or are you just looking to use higher capacity mags?

 

[E'villeGunner]

Here's a useful site for all you Saiga owners out there.

forum.Saiga-12.com

 

[Shootin'IN]

Just bought a Saiga 12, and found this useful...

Section 922r

Your link stated that the rear trunnion is a countable part.
The rear trunnion is not a countable part. It is actually a "stock tang", not a trunnion.
The only trunnion that counts is the front trunnion, maybe they should have called it a barrel mounting block.

 

[boozoo]

The key is... if you leave it alone and keep it as it was imported, it's legal. When you start changing things out like the magazine, you trigger the 922r crap.

And really if you look at it, it's nothing but pure protectionism for the domestic firearms industry.


Ya know I was curious... how many people have been busted for that? I'd rather be compliant to be safe, but it seems like that would be a tough law to enforce unless you're constantly going around asking people to do a full tear-down... or show receipts for compliance related parts.

 

[Kase]

Ya know I was curious... how many people have been busted for that? I'd rather be compliant to be safe, but it seems like that would be a tough law to enforce unless you're constantly going around asking people to do a full tear-down... or show receipts for compliance related parts.

I agree. I doubt there is many law enforcement officers that even know what the law states off the top of their head.

 

[printcraft]

What is the 922R law?

Annoying and confusing.

It does NOTHING to help, protect, make safer any weapon.
It's an added regulation to cause problems and red tape
thereby putting a hardship on gun ownership.
I believe that was the intended purpose.

 

[mms]

so im considering sbr'ing my draco and was wondering if i will have to make it compliant going from a pistol to a rifle.... there seems to be a debate about this on arfcom. whether nfa items fall under 922r ...wondering what you guys think?

sorry for thread jack

 

[indykid]

At first ATF stated that items falling under the 1934 NFA were not subject to 922(r) but they later issued a statement stating that items falling under the 1934 NFA were subject to 922(r).

It was stated above correctly, this unconstitutional law does nothing but put a hardship on firearm owners making their arms that shall not be infringed more expensive.

 

[mms]

so i do need to make it in compliance.... i was planning on it just to be safe but good to know im not just spending extra money