What is it with the 20 somethings these days?

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  • Johnny C

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    Are they just a result of the government run sheep factories?

    Why can't they seem to understand that Capitalism is where you spend most of your money on things you choose and
    Socialism is where government spends most of your money on things they choose. (Copied from another forum...I like it)

    Sure the current Crony capitalism has issues, but our constitution and old timey core values are what made America the powerful home of the free that it is.

    The Bernie supporters seem to want to toss that all out and there are a whole lot of them. We can be sure that out of the closet Communists will be running every presidential election from now on.

    I fear for this nation in the decades to come.
     

    historian

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    What is it with the 60-70 somethings these days?

    Are they just a result of the government run sheep factories?


    Why can't they seem to understand that Capitalism is where you spend most of your money on things you choose and
    Socialism is where government spends most of your money on things they choose. (Copied from another forum...I like it)

    Sure the current Crony capitalism has issues, but our constitution and old timey core values are what made America the powerful home of the free that it is.

    The Bernie supporters seem to want to toss that all out and there are a whole lot of them. We can be sure that out of the closet Communists will be running every presidential election from now on.

    I fear for this nation in the decades to come.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Students_for_a_Democratic_Society
     

    ArcadiaGP

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    <---- Still a 20-something


    What's the saying? If you aren't liberal when you're 20, you have no heart... and if you aren't conservative when you're 30, you have no brain...?
     

    historian

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    What is the matter with centenarians these days?

    Are they just a result of the government run sheep factories?

    Why can't they seem to understand that Capitalism is where you spend most of your money on things you choose and
    Socialism is where government spends most of your money on things they choose. (Copied from another forum...I like it)

    Sure the current Crony capitalism has issues, but our constitution and old timey core values are what made America the powerful home of the free that it is.

    The Debs supporters seem to want to toss that all out and there are a whole lot of them. We can be sure that out of the closet Communists will be running every presidential election from now on.

    I fear for this nation in the decades to come.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_socialist_movement_in_the_United_States
     

    seedubs1

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    What's with our congress these days? They can't even balance a budget.

    Honestly.....the system is broken at this point. There's so many laws and convolution to the point the common man can't understand or even know all of the laws. At that point, it's all over anyways.

    So who cares. Who ever is elected next can't/won't do anything to right the ship. It's more like a flaming 200 ton train speeding towards a cliff with no brakes at this point.
     

    Leadeye

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    The really important decisions get made in the dc beltway and the outcomes are based on how much was spent to get them. Elected officials,military officers, and bureaucrats alike move into the beltway after a period of time in government because it's there that the real cash is made. The people who are paying the beltway know that the average ROI is good so the system just gets bigger. States are no different, just smaller in scale.

    Always follow the money
     

    rob63

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    Interesting article by Michael Gerson
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...000350-1081-11e6-93ae-50921721165d_story.html

    "The 2016 presidential race already counts an extraordinary accomplishment: It has made the 2000 election seem like the good old days.
    Before Bush v. Gore became a Supreme Court controversy, the contest seemed to demonstrate that American politics was modernizing in a hopeful direction. Clintonism (including Al Gore’s slightly revised version) had helped Democrats come to terms with what was right about Reaganism, particularly on crime, trade, welfare and basic economics. George W. Bush was Reagan-like on taxes and trade, but set out to compete with Clintonism on domestic policy — proposing conservative and free-market methods to improve educational outcomes for minority children and provide prescription drug coverage in Medicare. It seemed as if 21st-century versions of liberalism and conservatism were conducting plausible arguments about how best to govern in response to new economic realities.
    A decade and a half later, the parties have turned hard against both visions. The left has systematically forced Hillary Clinton to uphold the banner of anti-Clintonism on crime, trade, welfare and basic economics. The right was content, at first, to reject Bush’s compassionate conservatism. Now a significant portion of the GOP base, under Donald Trump’s leadership, is rejecting Reaganism in favor of nativism, protectionism and isolationism.
    Both Clintonism and Reaganism, no doubt, needed updating. But the parties have gone further, essentially abandoning the two most compelling, successful governing visions of the past few decades. With the influence of Bernie Sanders and the success of Trump, American politics has launched into uncharted ideological waters."
     

    jd4320t

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    Blame the parents. Just wait another 15-20 years and see what we have then.

    My daughter is 15. She works, goes to school and is already talking about her future. She doesn't hide indoors, live on social media or expect anything for free.
     
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    jdmack79

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    Just what we need, another thread to bash the young people. What generations gave us Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Medicare Part D, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, assault weapons bans, GCA of 1968, FOPA of 1986, and a skyrocketing national debt? It sure wasn't the millennials.
     

    Woobie

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    Just what we need, another thread to bash the young people. What generations gave us Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Medicare Part D, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, assault weapons bans, GCA of 1968, FOPA of 1986, and a skyrocketing national debt? It sure wasn't the millennials.

    While I agree with most of what you said, I will remind you that the guy who got us into Afghanistan was not an American. The guys who made a mess of the strategy were, but no one here was responsible for beginning it.
     

    Woobie

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    Speak for yourself, me and my 20 something year old friends generally have our acts together.

    Most of the 20 something's I know are currently or have in the past worn the flag you see in my avatar. Fine Americans. But I have been on college campuses and seen the other side of the coin. But nothing unique to millennials.
     

    jdmack79

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    While I agree with most of what you said, I will remind you that the guy who got us into Afghanistan was not an American. The guys who made a mess of the strategy were, but no one here was responsible for beginning it.
    We didn't just invade Afghanistan and kill the guy responsible for 9/11. We occupied, engaged in "nation building", and completely botched our involvement in the region.
     

    Woobie

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    We didn't just invade Afghanistan and kill the guy responsible for 9/11. We occupied, engaged in "nation building", and completely botched our involvement in the region.

    Right. Like I said. No American started it, so you can't blame us for that part of it. Blame Bush and Obama all you want for the rest of it, ultimately that part is on them.
     

    seedubs1

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    Stop blaming millennials and look in the mirror. Gen X has been the most worthless generation in history. Some good came before them, but all of the crap we've inherited has been due to previous generations.

    Just what we need, another thread to bash the young people. What generations gave us Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Medicare Part D, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, assault weapons bans, GCA of 1968, FOPA of 1986, and a skyrocketing national debt? It sure wasn't the millennials.
     
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