Viewing Alert: John Stossel Report on "Packing in America"

[ATM]

mainstream libertarian

Never heard of ?

Glenn Beck
Frank Zappa
Drew Carey
Howard Stern
Dennis Leary
Kurt Russel

Libertarians are appealing to me more and more these days.

Frank would smack you if he heard you call him mainstream.

 

[downzero]

Glenn Beck, a libertarian?

That's hilarious.

 

[printcraft]

Missing the Nuge on the list.

 

[downzero]

Perhaps "undeniable truth" was too much. Reflects a bit of bias on my part.

How about "incontrovertible facts"?

The results of a scientific experiment are simply an observation. Further observation may find that the experiment was performed erroneously, or that the facts actually do not support such a conclusion, or that new observations falsify the results of past ones.

Nobody has "undeniable truth" or "incontrovertible facts" in science. Science is, by its nature, a method of analysis that denies anyone a monopoly on reality. That is actually what makes science so persuasive--that everyone must submit to fact checking and the empirical rule, and nobody can claim, regardless of the evidence presented, to have "undeniable truth."

Modern science is a product of the enlightenment...and for good reason!

 

[downzero]

Missing the Nuge on the list.

He's certainly very far from being a libertarian as well.

He's a hyper-nationalist, lock down the border type conservative. These views are inconsistent with support for a free market economy, which is central to libertarian ideology.

Free trade of labor is just as important as goods and services, and anyone who wants to up a political boundary to competition in labor does not support a free market, and is therefore not a libertarian.

Besides Stossel, the most prominent libertarian I can think of on TV/involved in media is Dennis Miller. I would say that Howard Stern is similar. As is Mancow Muller if you guys have heard of him and his show.

 

[ATM]

The results of a scientific experiment are simply an observation...

Here is my observation:

"An armed man will kill an unarmed man with monotonous regularity."

I will cede that my conclusion from this observation may not follow a purely scientific method of analysis


...but seriously, screw being an unarmed man.

 

[downzero]

I've seen plenty of armed men who couldn't hit anything to be so sure.

 

[thej27]

Watching it right now. The Brady guy grasping at straws. So far 10 minutes in most of his counter arguments against Lott is either "other researchers have found differently." or "other factors contributed to the decline in crime not more guns." This is going to be interesting.

 

[T-rav]

Never heard of ?

Glenn Beck
Frank Zappa
Drew Carey
Howard Stern
Dennis Leary
Kurt Russel

Libertarians are appealing to me more and more these days.

Dont forget

Penn Jillette

 

[Prometheus]

On again, about 7 min into it.

 

[Bigum1969]

Is it available online?

 

[sj kahr k40]

Is it available online?

Found a brief segment on FBN website, would post the link but I haven't figured out how to copy on my iPad yet

 

[The Keymaster]

I thought this was a well prepared show. Funny that anti-gun people that were asked to participate either declined, or conveniently did not return phone calls.

 

[HICKMAN]

Dont forget

Penn Jillette

ah yes, was watching BS on SHO last night

 

[CountryBoy19]

Found a brief segment on FBN website, would post the link but I haven't figured out how to copy on my iPad yet

Ah, finally found it. Web-only Segment of Tonight’s Show: More Guns, Less Crime? « John Stossel