A drop in the bucket compared to replacing batteries out of warranty or the cost of charging your vehicle once energy costs go up where they're expected to be.
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The Real Costs of Electric Car Ownership - CNET
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A drop in the bucket compared to replacing batteries out of warranty or the cost of charging your vehicle once energy costs go up where they're expected to be.
The gasoline that was cheap when the occupant of the White House promoted energy independence rather than purposely destroying our energy infrastructure?
If somebody wants a battery powered car, they should be able to buy one.
But that's where the debate should end.
The environment and cost are what those who are trying to mandate them on us keep using a an excuse.
So that naturally will be in the discussion.
PERSONALLY, my main sticking point with battery powered cars is that the government is trying to force them on us by various mandates.
If the government would just stop with the mandates, stop working to destroy the oil, gas and coal industries, and let the automakers make the vehicles the buying public wants, I'd support it.
But these "green new deal" zealots refuse to just let the issue work itself out with the mainstream public.
I think I saw a chart for electricity prices over in France where they are 7x what they were a year ago. I am the energy engineer for the plant I work at. Our plant's electrical bill has gone up 30% just this summer. Our budgeted natural gas rate is forecasted to almost double for 2023. There is no such thing as a free lunch. All energy is connected to one another.
Yep, because if the government wants us to want something, we should be very wary about the reasoning behind it. This whole climate agenda BS is nothing but an expensive boondoggle used as an excuse to force authoritarian mandates and for government to get more and more control.
Imagine that. Increase demand, remove an alternative fuel source, and the "cheap" NG is no longer as cheap.
I cannot figure out if people are ignorant or willfully blind to what the government is doing with electric vehicles.
Stupid, unfortunately.
Tucker (in video above,) is reporting that places in Europe are more expensive to fill your EV than a gas car would be.
It's kinda like Obamacare, healthcare has never been more expensive, since we were fooled into "free."
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This is caused by having hazardous materials in sufficient quantity that if hauled by a trucking firm requires special containment…
That probably won't buff out.
Really? Which part?
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It keeps getting better!
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Tens of thousands of SoCal Edison customers could lose power amid heat wave
Tens of thousands of Southern California Edison customers may lose power during the electric supply company's scheduled outages, with some of the customers being left in the dark during this week's heat wave.
Remember when they screamed "elections have consequences"?
Actually, no. Tesla’s battery warranty, for example, is 8 years or 150K miles. Add up how much gas the average driver spends over the same time/mileage minus what the electric bill is. Fuel is way more expensive over that time than a new battery.
The problem with battery life isn’t the cost alone. It's that it happens in one expense, whereas fuel for ICE vehicles is spread over that time. It has the effect of limiting the effective life of an electric car to the life of the battery, because as the car ages it’s value decreases to the point where it’s not worth the cost of the battery to replace it to most people.
But that's not a lot different from ICE vehicles because those engines don't last forever. Some vehicles you’d be lucky to squeeze out 150K miles until you start having expensive repairs due to engine problems. And those expenses could easily approach the cost of replacing a battery. But, for many ICE vehicles, if you take good care of them, they can last several hundred thousand miles.
I have a vehicle that we're thinking about replacing. It's throwing catalytic converter codes. It has maybe 130K miles on it. It uses about a quart or so of oil per 1K miles. We think that's what clogged up the cats. The dealer quoted us around $5K to replace them, which is ridiculous. It should be about half that. If I did it myself I could probably get it done for just over $2K. But with it using oil so bad, I think it's time to replace it.
We could get the engine rebuilt, and replace the cats ourselves. That might approach the cost of a new battery if it were electric. But we can drive the car as it is now with the problems it has. We couldn't do that with an EV if the battery can't hold a charge.
