The official status update thread part 2

[Cru]

Hmmm.... I thought bill was worded so that no local governments could have more restrictive gun laws than the state. So, the city couldn't have a law against weapons in the stadium, but I thought the stadium could still not allow them and asking you to leave.

Sure, but then the Colts organization and Irsay have to pay out of his OWN pocket to check people for guns, not the local police.

 

[ljadayton]

Hmmm.... I thought bill was worded so that no local governments could have more restrictive gun laws than the state. So, the city couldn't have a law against weapons in the stadium, but I thought the stadium could still not allow them and asking you to leave.

IDK, I guess it depends on whether the stadium is public property or private property? Like the libraries versus a retail store? IDK..just a guess

 

[OneBadV8]

Sure, but then the Colts organization and Irsay have to pay out of his OWN pocket to check people for guns, not the local police.

Ha, fine with me.

 

[OneBadV8]

IDK, I guess it depends on whether the stadium is public property or private property? Like the libraries versus a retail store? IDK..just a guess

I think the main point is they can still make you leave, you're just not breaking a law because its not illegal.

 

[Cru]

For me it's more of the local government taking a stand saying "Look, WE won't be responsible for disarming people" which is a HUGE step in the direction gun owners SHOULD be for.

 

[ljadayton]

I think the main point is they can still make you leave, you're just not breaking a law because its not illegal.

If it's private property they totally have that right. I have the right to ask anyone to leave my store.

 

[OneBadV8]

For me it's more of the local government taking a stand saying "Look, WE won't be responsible for disarming people" which is a HUGE step in the direction gun owners SHOULD be for.

Yep, I know what you're saying.

 

[Cru]

If it's private property they totally have that right. I have the right to ask anyone to leave my store.

How can it be private property when every person who lives or buys anything in Marion or the surrounding counties have had to help pay for it?

 

[OneBadV8]

How can it be private property when every person who lives or buys anything in Marion or the surrounding counties have had to help pay for it?

But isn't it more about who's putting the event on and not that actual venue? I thought for concerts and such they made their own rules and had to pay their own insurance for events.

I think its one of those gray lines that isn't clearly defined.

 

[ljadayton]

How can it be private property when every person who lives or buys anything in Marion or the surrounding counties have had to help pay for it?

I agree. TOTALLY. Who pays for my store? The people who chose to come in the doors. THATs what gives me the right to ask people to leave. IF taxpayer's paid for the lights and my paycheck, I shouldn't be able to ask them to leave unless they're breaking a law.

 

[ljadayton]

But isn't it more about who's putting the event on and not that actual venue? I thought for concerts and such they made their own rules and had to pay their own insurance for events.

I think its one of those gray lines that isn't clearly defined.

probably a very gray line.

 

[Cru]

But isn't it more about who's putting the event on and not that actual venue? I thought for concerts and such they made their own rules and had to pay their own insurance for events.

I think its one of those gray lines that isn't clearly defined.

Sure. If let's say hypothetically YOU held an event there... you can put "no guns allowed" on the tickets. But you are then responsible for having the metal detectors or whatever bag checkers and etc. you want.

But by default, the place would be a legal carry spot.

 

[OneBadV8]

Sure. If let's say hypothetically YOU held an event there... you can put "no guns allowed" on the tickets. But you are then responsible for having the metal detectors or whatever bag checkers and etc. you want.

But by default, the place would be a legal carry spot.

Yep... that's how I understand it. Media is mis-reporting like crazy though. And Anti-gun, gunowners are all about it. Some people are just idiots.

 

[Cru]

ANyway you can go back to talking about bananas and fart jokes if you want.

I was just annoyed.

 

[OneBadV8]

Those darn Raiders fans just disrupt everything

 

[Cru]

Maybe we (the raiders) will have another decent season next year. If there is a season. And honestly, I hope their isn't.

 

[OneBadV8]

Maybe we (the raiders) will have another decent season next year. If there is a season. And honestly, I hope their isn't.

You hope they don't have a season next year?


Because...

 

[OneBadV8]

see... Cru killed it and left.

 

[Cru]

You hope they don't have a season next year?


Because...

I want to laugh at INDY not getting the super bowl.

 

[HotPocket]

For a minute there I thought I was in the wrong place