I'm not seeing a lot to argue with. 2 techniques that accomplish the same thing. They both have strengths and weaknesses. Pick one, accept its short comings, and move on.
Umm. I don't think he can count. either way you go to the belt twice, so the timing differences should be negligible. One way, you have two mags in your hand and always have a mag in the gun, the other way you are only having a chambered round and no mag momentarily.
I like the video showing them both, but in reality who leaves an empty mag holder on their belt for edc?
Waiting for more peeps comments as well.
HE can count just fine it seems...
You don't have to use an empty pouch. Pocket, inside your belt, whatever.
-rvb
Either reload technique has you lingering at one spot. One is at the gun, the other is at the belt line.
I actually got to watch this on the pc, and my counting is off. no sleep
Okay, sorry for the delay, sometimes work sucks. Right of the bat I have to ask, Is that kid even old enough to own a handgun?
Starting out I thought okay, I am going to like this, he is using the terms, proactive, and reactive like we do. He sorta lost me when he did the one step to the side thing, but this isn't what that is about. I have no problem with the techniques he used, just the conclusions he came to. Here is the crux of the matter as I see it. The classic "tactical" reload was developed to be used with slim 1911 mags, things may be a little different with double stacks. Add to that a few other factors, such as stress, moving while doing the reload, and maybe something like having a flashlight in your support hand, and your prospects for messing up with the "tactical" reload go up dramatically.
Remember, the whole rationale for a proactive reload is that there is a lull in the fight or you have cover, or preferrably both. The difference in time to get your pistol back up and running is so small as to be insignificant, especially considering that this is a PROACTIVE reload. Some of us forget that most people don't practice enough to get the easy stuff right under stress, let alone the fine motor control stuff like juggling two mags in your hand when you are amped up on adrenaline like a meth junky.
If you don't believe me lets see what the late Mr. Gomez has to say about it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2XDcfz9_l8&feature=BFa&list=UUnlR_KehwA1YfqrR9Mf9Rig
ps I only use Paul because we agree on this subject, and his video was handy.
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I, too, am very fond of the late Mr. Gomez's teaching and thinking; however, I am hard pressed to see the true practical application of either the "tactical" or "proactive" reload in a deadly force encounter especially when,as Cedartop aptly described it, "you are amped up on adrenaline like a meth junky."
At 3:40 of the video, Mr. Gomez advocates the "proactive" reload while running full out during a gunfight. Perhaps, I am an outlier, but I lack the multi-dexterous requirements to do what follows, basically all at the same time:All the while:
- run at full speed (forward, obliquely, sideways, backwards, etc.) over uneven, unfamilliar terrain, while,
- holding a handgun up in my sight,
- removing the magazine,
- tucking it into my waistband under a shirt,
- removing another magazine from its pouch, and
- inserting it into the empty magwell.
Are there any independently verifiable examples of the above being done successfully by one person in a gunfight?
- not stumbling or falling down,
- not running into a tree, or rock, or pole, or car, or fire hydrant, or....., and
- neither dropping nor fumbling either:
- the first magazine,
- the second magazine, or
- the gun, and
- still concentrating on the location and actions of the assailant(s).