So I Was Watching 1000 Ways To Die

[thej27]

tonight on spike. One of the segments was showing two guys smoking and drinking a lot. Then one guy had the bright idea of emptying the shot out of a shotgun shell and loaded cigarettes in its place.

He then pointed the shotgun at his friend with the intention of shooting a supposed lit cigarette into his friends mouth. According to what the program said the cigarettes traveled at a high enough velocity that they pierced the friend's face and skull and killed him.

Besides holding the shotgun at point blank range I dont think it would be possible for the cigarettes to have enough weight to pierce a face let alone keeping a tight enough pattern. What are your thoughts on this INGO experts.

 

[trnsplntfrmohio]

Yeah sounds fake.

 

[JohnP82]

If he only took the shot out but left the wadding in, then i could see them coming out with definite force. I sure wouldnt try it

plus call me crazy, but i wouldnt like the feeling of having a shotgun pointed at me anyway

 

[nox]

Lol, the fact that someone would even entertain the idea that a lit cig would land gently upon his companions lips is hilarious to me.

 

[singlesix]

Fake ... hmmm.. depends. If these boys were from Tennessee, I'd believe it.

 

[sianbrimons]

i think this would be something to be submitted either to that "box'o'truth" website, or to mythbusters, it really would be interesting to see what happens, i've had the thoughts of what all objects could be loaded into a shell, just for fun...

 

[Hoosier8]

Cigarettes at 1200 ft/sec and a cigarette weighs about 1 gram, that translates to a possible 49 ft/lb per cigarette. You could maybe get 4 cigs in one 12 ga shell, so that would translate to about 200 ft/lb of energy in about 60 grains of mass at point blank range.

Seeing how the cigs would be much lighter than a load of shot, the speed might be much higher, say 2800 ft/sec, now you are up maybe around 1000 ft/lbs.

Enough to do some damage I would think.

 

[singlestacksig]

the wading can kill at close range.. plus the expanding gasses may have had enough force to kill..

 

[Bushido Devil Dog]

Even a blank cartridge with NO projectile can kill a :dumbass: at close range, just ask Jon-Erik Hexum.

 

[superstorm]

I think the force would riddle the cigarettes from the blast. But I can see the wad killing him at point blank that would be like getting with a plastic slug.

 

[nox]

Even a blank cartridge with NO projectile can kill a :dumbass: at close range, just ask Jon-Erik Hexum.

or Brandon Lee

 

[jfed85]

I think they did this on mythbusters and confirmed it...but Im not 100% sure.

 

[Ness2k]

I remember this episode:

Killer Butts

Myth: Three cigarettes shot from a rifle at 7 feet can be lethal
As the story goes, a couple of good 'ole boys decided to get drunk and mess around with guns. One of them put three cigarettes down the barrel of a muzzle-loading rifle and shot it at his buddy, killing him.
Adam brewed up a clear ballistics gel dummy (new mixture) with a pig heart embedded in the center. They didn't bother with a rib cage as they were going with the assumption that the butts were able to squeak through the gaps in the rib cage. They found an exact replica of the muzzle-loading rifle in the myth and went down to the South San Francisco Police Department firing range, where they met up with their old testing buddy Master Sgt. Alan Normandy.
For their first two tests, they used 80 grains of black powder and shot cigarette filters at seven feet. The first shot sprayed the dummy with filters, wadding, and black powder, but caused no real damage. The unburnt black powder lead them to believe that the rifle wasn't packed tight enough, so they tried again with more wadding. The next test didn't fare any better, with just more shotgun damage-less spray.
They reasoned that the cigarette filters they were using were incorrect. An actual smoked cigarette butt weighs three times as much as a cigarette filter and is closer to what would have probably been used. They repeated their tests, this time with 'pre-smoked' cigarette butts. At seven feet they had a little more damage than before, but just non-lethal flesh wounds. At point-blank range, the shot went straight into the pig heart. At that distance, the cigarette butts definitely could be lethal.