Shot with own gun while being disarmed?

[KW730]

I hear this all the time around here and have had some discussions with people who feel differently. Are there actually any cases of people being shot with their own gun when an officer attempts to disarm them? I would like some evidence to back up my reasoning on not informing.

 

[actaeon277]

Last Lake County gun show, an officer fired the weapon he was checking into the table.

I think it was a Florida airport where TSA called an officer over to check a weapon out, and the officer discharged the weapon.

I know that didn't answer your question, but if some are waving the weapon, and some have NDs......

 

[JettaKnight]

Last Lake County gun show, an officer fired the weapon he was checking into the table.

I think it was a Florida airport where TSA called an officer over to check a weapon out, and the officer discharged the weapon.

I know that didn't answer your question, but if some are waving the weapon, and some have NDs......

Unpossible. These people are trained to handle firearms and are far better than you.

This is way I don't inform - no chance to have some rookie cop coonfingering my sidearm in public.

 

[cp009]

Firm believer that a firearm should stay holstered in any encounter. Honestly I don't know why some officers feel the need to disarm an individual within his/her rights. There is just too much liability when handling any firearm.

 

[actaeon277]

Flight attendant's gun goes off at Philadelphia airport | jacksonville.com

 

[92ThoStro]

Getting shot? I don't recall any, just the negligent discharges. On top of the ones mentioned above, there was the shotgun that was being cleared ( was it IMPD? ) and it discharged into the floor.

 

[45fan]

Getting shot? I don't recall any, just the negligent discharges. On top of the ones mentioned above, there was the shotgun that was being cleared ( was it IMPD? ) and it discharged into the floor.

I bet that wasnt the only discharge that day! LOL, If I unexpectedly fired a shotgun unto the floor, I would probably be changing my shorts too!!

 

[lon]

Unpossible. These people are trained to handle firearms and are far better than you.

yeah.............'feshnuls

 

[cigarman454]

Does this count?
police officer shoots himself in classroom - Bing Videos

 

[Indiana Camper]

I couldn't get the video to load on my phone but if it's what I'm thinking of that guy WAS a federal agent not a cop.

 

[The Keymaster]

Several years ago I was disarmed during 2 separate traffic stops. One time I allowed a sheriffs deputy to enter my vehicle and remove my weapon from my holster while I was swated. Another time I was instructed to remove my weapon from a shoulder rig, and pass it through the window to an ISP trooper.

I can tell you with certainty that neither of these situations will ever happen again. If an LEO wishes to disarm me, it will be outside my vehicle, while standing along the shoulder of the road, and the officer will remove the weapon from my holster.

Looking back, I can't believe how stupid I was on both occasions.

 

[railbug]

I HAD A HAMILTON COUNTY SHERIFF TAKE MY XD FROM MY GLOVE BOX. HE UNLOADED IT AND TOOK THE MAG AND THE LOOSE ROUND WITH HIM. HE DID NOT ASK ABOUT THE EXTRA MAGS I KEPT WITH ME.

 

[cosermann]

It's simply a matter of time.

Although, I doubt it will stop all the unnecessary coonfingering that goes on.

Not a disarm, but another example of an officer discharge (OD):
http://www.wibc.com/news/story.aspx?ID=1858152

The record is replete with them.

 

[Scutter01]

I HAD A HAMILTON COUNTY SHERIFF TAKE MY XD FROM MY GLOVE BOX. HE UNLOADED IT AND TOOK THE MAG AND THE LOOSE ROUND WITH HIM. HE DID NOT ASK ABOUT THE EXTRA MAGS I KEPT WITH ME.

Did he give the ammo back, or did he just steal your personal property?

 

[ModernGunner]

Did he give the ammo back, or did he just steal your personal property?

Agreed, Scutter. The instant that squad pulled away with mag and ammo in, time to be on the cell phone (if available) and calling the local PD (whether it's the department of that Officer or not) and filing a report for theft of property, naming the LEO as the suspect.

I suppose you COULD file it as a robbery, but theft of property, in this instance, would probably get a more positive response, and 'prove' you're not 'over-reacting' like some 'right-wing pro-gun nut' (whatever THAT means).

Years ago, when CCW's were less prevalent, I checked on some folks with some sort of 'regularity'. Maybe noticed the guys gun when he was sitting in front of the convenience store or whatever. I (or 'we' since usually back then, we had 2 LEO's per squad) approached the individual, stated that I noticed he was carrying, and asked if he had a permit. Would tell him to just leave the gun where it is, while I checked the permit. Valid? "Thank you, Sir (or Ma'am). We just hafta check, you know. Have a nice day".

If someone else mentioned, we'd again approach, ask if he was carrying, and if so, ask to see his / her permit, and where they had the gun. "On your right hip? Fine, please don't remove it while I check your permit, thank you." Permit valid? No problem.

Never had the need, or felt the need to disarm someone legally carrying. What for? The gun is LESS likely to go off accidentally, or be an issue, right where it is. If it's NOT an immediate hazard / threat, leave it where it is.

Just for clarity, I HAVE disarmed suspects incident to arrest. But never while just checking a law-abiding citizen to validate their permit.

 

[corronade]

I wonder if asking to step outside the car would make the officer more on edge.
Would it not be safer if the cop was not on edge even more?

 

[actaeon277]

I wonder if asking to step outside the car would make the officer more on edge.
Would it not be safer if the cop was not on edge even more?

It would be safer if it stays on my hip in its holster.

 

[corronade]

I agree but if he asked me or you to give him the fire arm to check it with permit. I don't know telling people to ask to step out of their car would be a wise decision. It might add to a unnecessary tension to a delicate moment.

 

[actaeon277]

I agree but if he asked me or you to give him the fire arm to check it with permit. I don't know telling people to ask to step out of their car would be a wise decision. It might add to a unnecessary tension to a delicate moment.

You stay in the car.
If the officer directs you to step out, then step out slowly, hands clear of gun. Shut door behind you.
If the officer wishes to remove firearm, inform him that you are not resisting, but you do not consent to a search.
Ask if you are being detained, and what the cause is.

 

[public servant]

I HAD A HAMILTON COUNTY SHERIFF TAKE MY XD FROM MY GLOVE BOX. HE UNLOADED IT AND TOOK THE MAG AND THE LOOSE ROUND WITH HIM. HE DID NOT ASK ABOUT THE EXTRA MAGS I KEPT WITH ME.

Do you mean he kept it...or just for the duration of the stop then returned it?