Only shooting at 20 ft. Kept them on a paper plate but not all in the middle for sure. Was not too bad as far as recoil but loud and I was just shooting winchester 115 ball. Im thinking 115 grain will be plenty for me shooting this gun for awhile. I will save the +p for the glock. All in all happy with how it shot. I think its a keeper. Just cleaned it and getting the pin back in took just abit but not that bad to take apart or put together. Got a new proshot cleaning kit and it worked great. Cleaned the glock with it also. Peace!