Question about Amish...

[4sarge]

Wow, between this thread and the one about Amish Poop, I never realized the level of anti-Amishness alive in the world.

Darn good thing that I've never seen a Black Amish, the Racism tag would be applied

 

[Expat]

How many times have I seen someone wanting to sell a firearm on this forum say: FTF, drivers license and LTCH? Would _you_ sell a firearm to someone in black clothing with a beard who _said_ he was Amish?

And I never would buy from someone requiring that as it is not required by law in a personal sales type situation. So I have passed on some pretty good deals that I would have been all over due to my principles. Yes I do have a LTCH and D/L. I pass a background check in b/m stores way more than I should.

My Amish neighbors don't wear black too often. Usually that ugly looking fake denim for their pants and pastel colored shirts...

 

[printcraft]

 

[Blackhawk2001]

And I never would buy from someone requiring that as it is not required by law in a personal sales type situation. So I have passed on some pretty good deals that I would have been all over due to my principles. Yes I do have a LTCH and D/L. I pass a background check in b/m stores way more than I should.
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That is, of course, your choice and your responsibility.

 

[infidel]

Amish...
ID cards...

We are missing something for the to be the tri-fecta of epic threads.

 

[printcraft]

Amish...
ID cards...

We are missing something for the to be the tri-fecta of epic threads.

OC vs. CC while churning the butter or raising a barn?

 

[INMIline]

Maybe it was this guy and he said never again????

Amish man Sexually Assaulted in Indiana | NowPublic News Coverage

lol I don't think he was one of the talented Amish. He definitely wasn't one of the smarter ones..

 

[Expat]

We haven't attracted our troll over here.... it can never be truly epic without troll input.

 

[Expat]

Maybe it was this guy and he said never again????

Amish man Sexually Assaulted in Indiana | NowPublic News Coverage

I remember that. I never got to see a pic of the guy though...

 

[451_Detonics]

And I never would buy from someone requiring that as it is not required by law in a personal sales type situation. So I have passed on some pretty good deals that I would have been all over due to my principles. Yes I do have a LTCH and D/L. I pass a background check in b/m stores way more than I should.

You do know that ATF has run stings in this state buying FTF then arresting the seller for selling across state lines. I wouldn't sell without proper for any reason to anyone.

 

[IndyMonkey]

You do know that ATF has run stings in this state buying FTF then arresting the seller for selling across state lines. I wouldn't sell without proper for any reason to anyone.

It's not that hard. Are you from Indiana.....yes. Great here's your new gun.

 

[PatriotPride]

It's not that hard. Are you from Indiana.....yes. Great here's your new gun.

Burden of proof has been met. I'm not too terribly comfortable doing it that way with someone I've not talked extensively to, but that would show sufficient good faith.

 

[Expat]

Someone in our little group admitted a few weeks ago he was a professional CI for the DEA. I wondered if he was going to try to get some deals going here...

IANAL but my understanding is the same as IndyMonkey. If they say they are a state resident, are in the state at time of purchase, and there is nothing to indicate they are not legal to buy that is where my responsibility ends.

 

[Expat]

 

[451_Detonics]

In court when you are tried, it will by with the understanding of what a prudent man would do. Would you as a prudent man shoot someone who flipped you the bird? Of course not. Would you as a prudent man shoot someone who was trying to kill you? Of course. The "prudent man" is used by both defense and by prosecutors, if you sold to someone without asking for ID there is no way you would win in court. Ask your attorney...I have, this was also discussed with an Indiana State Circuit Judge with 30 years on the bench. Can ATF lie to you? Yes they can. Will they? Yes they will.

Will criminals lie to you? Yes
Will you lose in civil court if you sell a gun to a murderer without asking for credentials? Yes...you might lose anyway but if you saw a DL a LTCH your chances are better.

Naivety is not a viable defense...

Of course it is your life and you have the right to live it how you see fit...just don't pm me about a gun I have for sale if you aren't willing to show ID.

 

[38special]

I'm relatively certain they are required to use LTCH badges, too.

 

[IndyMonkey]

I'm relatively certain they are required to use LTCH badges, too.

 

[IndyMonkey]

In court when you are tried, it will by with the understanding of what a prudent man would do. Would you as a prudent man shoot someone who flipped you the bird? Of course not. Would you as a prudent man shoot someone who was trying to kill you? Of course. The "prudent man" is used by both defense and by prosecutors, if you sold to someone without asking for ID there is no way you would win in court. Ask your attorney...I have, this was also discussed with an Indiana State Circuit Judge with 30 years on the bench. Can ATF lie to you? Yes they can. Will they? Yes they will.

Will criminals lie to you? Yes
Will you lose in civil court if you sell a gun to a murderer without asking for credentials? Yes...you might lose anyway but if you saw a DL a LTCH your chances are better.

Naivety is not a viable defense...

Of course it is your life and you have the right to live it how you see fit...just don't pm me about a gun I have for sale if you aren't willing to show ID.

I still believe a mans word is good until proven different.

 

[singlestacksig]

I've known several persons who held government issued that did not have a photo.. it had the state seal and "No photo required" ..
Even seen a passport that was like that.. and yes , post 9/11 ..
I wonder if those people can leagally purchase a firearm...

 

[Jack Ryan]

That's the downside of having a religious objection to having your picture taken. Get the proper ID and come back or work around the problem some other way. He shouldn't be able to vote, either, without his picture on his ID.

WTF?

Was there an amendment to the 2nd amendment or something?

May be some fine print there I haven't seen?

...except the Amish or any one with out a picture ID authorised and paid for in full to the opressive government of your choice.