Middle East is geography, Persia is culture and ethinicity. Turkey used to be "Near East" until the west decided to lump them in with the Middle East.
No. They aren't. Turkey is not the Middle East. The term "Middle East" applies to a very specific region, and neither Turkey nor Iran are countries therein. They are Persian.
It still amazes me that coups happen in relatively advanced nations.
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I'd love to be in NATO headquarters right now seeing everyone run about, as well as in the EU headquarters. No doubt the EU will be pulling for the Islamists, NATO will officially sit on its hands and call for calm, but if they have half-a-brain they will be rooting for the military to succeed. I'm sure they will do nothing useful. Aside from the American bases the US has, there is a NATO forward operating base for NATO AWACS, I wonder if any are deployed, and if they skedaddled.
I shudder to think what our current SecState and President Jarrett are going to come up with.
Turkey is in Asia, not the ME, even though, (for political purposes) they are lumped into the region. The Turks are not Persian, though. They are a separate ethnic and cultural group.
Turkey isn't Middle East. It's Persian. A distinction lost on many, but it's an important one.
Coups happen in almost every single nation in history. What's so amazing?
I shudder to think what our current SecState and President Jarrett are going to come up with.
Wonder if the Kurds will end up with some borders.They're lumped in today because that's what the west always does. It rearranges borders for its own convenience.
Turkey is in Asia, not the ME, even though, (for political purposes) they are lumped into the region. The Turks are not Persian, though. They are a separate ethnic and cultural group.
The middle east is in Asia, except when you want to define it out by saying "Asia and the Middle East." The term came about when Europeans referred to the far off part (China etc) as "Far East," the middle section as "Middle East", and Turkey and environs as "Near East". For whatever reason "Near East" and "Far East got dropped around WWII and the lands formerly known as "Near East" merged with the rest of the Middle East for nomenclature. Turkey has always had the "pleasure" of being the gateway to the Middle East and Asia, but they if they are not Middle Eastern themselves, then they are European, and they most certainly are not European -- which the EU has not-so-subtly been telling them for years now.
Lost on me, for sure. I thought Persia was simply Iran. Taught me something again.
The middle east is in Asia, except when you want to define it out by saying "Asia and the Middle East." The term came about when Europeans referred to the far off part (China etc) as "Far East," the middle section as "Middle East", and Turkey and environs as "Near East". For whatever reason "Near East" and "Far East got dropped around WWII and the lands formerly known as "Near East" merged with the rest of the Middle East for nomenclature. Turkey has always had the "pleasure" of being the gateway to the Middle East and Asia, but they if they are not Middle Eastern themselves, then they are European, and they most certainly are not European -- which the EU has not-so-subtly been telling them for years now.
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A speech. A speech with really good words. And hand motions, but not too many.
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Hey, I'm just watching. My international politics knowledge is confined to Europe, sub-Saharan Africa, and the Far East
They are neither Middle Eastern or European, (for ethic purposes). The Turks are an Asiatic people who migrated into the area about the time of the Middle Ages. The Turkish language is East Asian, with some Indo-European that has snuck in over the ages. The Persians are Indo-European and migrated south to the Iranian region a long time ago. The Turks do not really like being called Middle Easterners and they're real particular about being called Arabs, (which they have in common with the Persians (Iranians). The Turks are a pretty distinct ethnicity and people.
[h=2]Turkish military broadcasts on state TV amid coup reports[/h] An announcement on the Turkish state broadcaster TRT says that a curfew has been declared across Turkey and that airports are closed. The announcer says they are being made to read a statement by the military.
The statement promises a new constitution for the country and says that democracy and the secular rule of law had been undermined. Martial law has also been imposed, it adds.