ohio permit in indiana

[spacelegged]

does indiana honor an ohio permit?

 

[Scutter01]

Indiana honors all permits from all states and foreign governments as long as the holder is not a resident of Indiana.

IC 35-47-2-21
Recognition of retail dealers' licenses and licenses to carry handguns issued by other states
Sec. 21. (a) Retail dealers' licenses issued by other states or foreign countries will not be recognized in Indiana except for sales at wholesale.
(b) Licenses to carry handguns, issued by other states or foreign countries, will be recognized according to the terms thereof but only while the holders are not residents of Indiana.
As added by P.L.311-1983, SEC.32.

 

[shibumiseeker]

Indiana honors permits from ANY legal government, state or national.

There is a caveat, you technically have to follow the laws pertaining to carry in your state, while in Indiana on your permit.

 

[spacelegged]

thnx guys..

 

[Farmritch]

But Ohio does not honor ours
Bastards

 

[IndyBeerman]

But Ohio does not honor ours
Bastards

Yup, sent a e-mail to the Ohio AG asking why about 8 months ago, on of his assistants sent me a number to call and talk, he basically was saying since Indiana does not require a training session to obtain a permit that we are all idiots and and fools.

Ohio's never getting another $$$'s from me.

 

[shibumiseeker]

Yup, sent a e-mail to the Ohio AG asking why about 8 months ago, on of his assistants sent me a number to call and talk, he basically was saying since Indiana does not require a training session to obtain a permit that we are all idiots and and fools.

Ohio's never getting another $$$'s from me.

Ahh, but the plot sickens! When Ohio FIRST implemented their permit system, they DID honor Indiana's. The legislature then changed that a few months later.

 

[Joe Williams]

Yes. Indiana honors permits/licenses from all the other states.

Though I do not think we should. I think the law should be changed to honor only the permits/licenses of states that honor ours. This would give the residents of those states a reason to pressure their governments to recognize ours. Right now, they couldn't care less about the fact we must disarm in their states.

 

[wetidlerjr]

Yes. Indiana honors permits/licenses from all the other states.

Though I do not think we should. I think the law should be changed to honor only the permits/licenses of states that honor ours. This would give the residents of those states a reason to pressure their governments to recognize ours. Right now, they couldn't care less about the fact we must disarm in their states.

I agree !

 

[Kirk Freeman]

But Ohio does not honor ours
Bastards

Well, you could just get a Florida license and comply with the law.

 

[cosermann]

There is a caveat, you technically have to follow the laws pertaining to carry in your state, while in Indiana on your permit.

"According to the terms thereof," refers to "licenses", not the laws of other states and countries. I think the correct way to interpret the statute is that you must follow the terms on your out of state license (some licenses specify how you must carry, cc for example, some are for hunting/target purposes only, etc.), otherwise, you follow Indiana's laws while here.

If someone has caselaw contrary to this I'm willing to be edumacated.

 

[IndyBeerman]

Why don't se start up a campaign to the Indiana Attorney General (States enter in agreement through them) to either pressure each state to allow reciprocity or we consider their license invalid in Indiana.

Of course this could have been all resolved if the National Reciprocity law would have passed last year. Lets hope for a Majority US House and US Senate and this could pass next time.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Why don't se start up a campaign to the Indiana Attorney General (States enter in agreement through them) to either pressure each state to allow reciprocity or we consider their license invalid in Indiana.

By what authority could the Attorney General consider a license to carry invalid? Why make the Attorney General the General Assembly?

Just because he's the Attorney "General" does not make him a commander of anything.* He's the Gov.'s contract attorney and general counsel. Don't believe the campaign commericals.




*We still need to do the INGO "design the Indiana AG's uniform" contest!

 

[Kirk Freeman]

think the correct way to interpret the statute is that you must follow the terms on your out of state license (some licenses specify how you must carry, cc for example, some are for hunting/target purposes only, etc.), otherwise, you follow Indiana's laws while here.

Right, so if you are from Texas you have to carry concealed, wear a big, silly hat, wear pointy elf boots and shout "yeehaw!"

Here is a typical Texan:




If you are from Florida you need to wear big sunglasses, black socks and sandals, drive a golf cart and eat dinner at 4:30PM.

Typical Floridian who is not complying with Florida law (oversized sunglasses and no black socks visible):

 

[ATM]

Why don't se start up a campaign to the Indiana Attorney General (States enter in agreement through them) to either pressure each state to allow reciprocity...

Yes. Less restrictions on us.

...or we consider their license invalid in Indiana.

No. I still wouldn't support imposing new restrictions on others.

I'd rather see no license required here but still offered for other states which require one.

 

[Dogman]

Yes. Indiana honors permits/licenses from all the other states.

Though I do not think we should. I think the law should be changed to honor only the permits/licenses of states that honor ours. This would give the residents of those states a reason to pressure their governments to recognize ours. Right now, they couldn't care less about the fact we must disarm in their states.

 

[shibumiseeker]

"According to the terms thereof," refers to "licenses", not the laws of other states and countries. I think the correct way to interpret the statute is that you must follow the terms on your out of state license (some licenses specify how you must carry, cc for example, some are for hunting/target purposes only, etc.), otherwise, you follow Indiana's laws while here.

If someone has caselaw contrary to this I'm willing to be edumacated.

I think we're talking about the same thing, but I am not 100% sure.

 

[Scutter01]

No. I still wouldn't support imposing new restrictions on others.

I'd rather see no license required here but still offered for other states which require one.

As noted already, the Indiana A.G. doesn't have the authority to accept or deny out-of-state licenses. That's mandated by statute. It would take an act of the state legislature to change it. That said, he certainly has the power to lobby other A.G.'s who DO have the power in their state to accept reciprocity.

 

[Indy_Guy_77]

There is a caveat, you technically have to follow the laws pertaining to carry in your state, while in Indiana on your permit.

"According to the terms thereof," refers to "licenses", not the laws of other states and countries. I think the correct way to interpret the statute is that you must follow the terms on your out of state license (some licenses specify how you must carry, cc for example, some are for hunting/target purposes only, etc.), otherwise, you follow Indiana's laws while here.

If someone has caselaw contrary to this I'm willing to be edumacated.

Debated a lot... Both sides bear weight.

Personally, I'm of a mind that you obey the laws of the state that you're IN first, worry about the stipulations on your license second.

For instance, if I were to go to Florida, should I then open carry because I'm allowed to by my Indiana LTCH? No, of course not, because OC is illegal in Florida. Same as in Texas.

If I go to church in Georgia...should I go ahead and carry? No, of course not, because carrying a weapon in a place of worship is illegal in GA.

Obey the laws (and pay attention to societal conventions) of the land you're in and you'll be fine. A peace officer in ABQ New Mexico isn't going to know what the laws of our IN LTCH are...nor care.

-J-

 

[Scutter01]

For instance, if I were to go to Florida, should I then open carry because I'm allowed to by my Indiana LTCH? No, of course not, because OC is illegal in Florida. Same as in Texas.

True, but if your license says "Holder is only authorized to carry the following pistols:" followed by a list of serial numbers, the way NY does it, I would expect that a NY license holder in Indiana would still have to abide by that restriction. In other words, "according to the terms <on the license>", not "according to the terms <of NY State law>".