nonimmigrant alien, carry license (first post)

[injb]

Hi...I'm new to the forum. I have a question about applying for a carry license, if anyone can offer any advice on this I'd appreciate it!

I've lived in IN for a year, and various other states before that. I'm a non-immigrant alien i.e. I have a visa that allows me to live here but not a green card. I can legally own a gun under Federal and IN law, and I have bought quite a few guns from FFLs over the last few years and even have a C & R license. I checked the IN law about carry licensing, and it looks to me like the *shall issue* applies to anyone who can legally own a gun:

(e) If it appears to the superintendent that the applicant:

...

(4) is:
(A) a citizen of the United States; or
(B) not a citizen of the United States but is allowed to carry
a firearm in the United States under federal law;
the superintendent shall issue to the applicant a qualified or an
unlimited license to carry any handgun lawfully possessed by the
applicant

I take that to mean anyone who can legally posses a firearm can have a carry license in IN.

Unfortunately, the application form you have to use online requires an INS number for non-citizens, and that is something a non-immigrant alien would not have. (You don't need it when filling out a 4473)

Can anyone here shed any light on this? Is my interpretation correct, and if so what can I do about the application form? Thanks!

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I don't know the answer. I would contact the ISP and ask them to be sure.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Yes. I had to take ISP to court a few years ago, but if you are qualifed under (y), then you get a pink card.

 

[Garander]

Kirk is a lawyer id listen to him

 

[Redhorse]

Yes. I had to take ISP to court a few years ago, but if you are qualifed under (y), then you get a pink card.

Kirk is a lawyer id listen to him

Your answer friend.

Also,

 

[sloughfoot]

I will always defer to the wisdom of those who have already responded. But, if an INS number is "required" on the application, and you don't have one. It seems to me that little thing will stop the process.

It seems simple to me....

I am not shedding any tears for you either.

Oh, and welcome to INGO.....

 

[injb]

Thanks for the replies and welcomes guys! I sent them an email asking what to do about this field in the application form, hopefully they will get back to me before too long.

 

[TheSpark]

Thanks for the replies and welcomes guys! I sent them an email asking what to do about this field in the application form, hopefully they will get back to me before too long.

Yea, asking the ISP first would be a great move. Otherwise it might end up getting rejected the first time and really slow the process down. Best of luck.

 

[1775usmarine]

Welcome and best of luck. Do you come in peace?

 

[AndersonIN]

Hey don't forget to post the updates here so that we can all gain a little knallege!

Welcome to INGO

 

[injb]

Welcome and best of luck. Do you come in peace?

Thanks and yes...even better, I come in business

Hey don't forget to post the updates here so that we can all gain a little knallege!


Welcome to INGO

I definitely will post updates as I get more info.

 

[injb]

No reply so far I got an automated reply but that's it.

 

[Bluejeeper]

Have you tried calling them? I find that most places answer/return phone calls much quicker than emails.

 

[injb]

Have you tried calling them? I find that most places answer/return phone calls much quicker than emails.

I haven't called...when it comes to things like this I prefer to have it in writing, and I don't doubt that the reluctance to reply is for a similar reason

I just sent a friendly reminder.

 

[level0]

Agree on asking ISP, but would not take their word on it either way. I suggest you call a lawyer, negotiate a fee, and let them handle the application process.

 

[injb]

Well my gentle nudge must have worked, I got a reply today. It wasn't as clear as I'd like but it does answer some things. They said I should "include" my admission number and that I would have to supply documentation to prove my exemption under 18 USC 922(y) (2). The documentation part is easy - they said I can fax or email it. But they didn't say exactly how I can include my admission number, and since the application form only has a box for an INS registration number, I'm not sure what to do next. I don't want to go putting something that is technically not an INS number in there, unless I am sure that's what they want me to do. I've asked for clarification on that, hopefully it won't take another week

EDIT...they got back to me within a few hours to say I should put my admission number in the INS number field on the form. I'll post more updates when there is more news, but it's looking fairly positive so far.

 

[ThatOneKid]

Make this a sticky maybe? It would be good info to have for others in the OPs situation

 

[chezuki]

Make this a sticky maybe? It would be good info to have for others in the OPs situation

I'm not sure a topic coming up once in 6 years really warrants a sticky.

 

[Trigger Time]

What country are you from?
welcome to ingo.

 

[chezuki]

What country are you from?
welcome to ingo.

And the United States!