NFA Trick Question For Those Trying To Learn The Crazy NFA Rules.....

[curraheeguns]

.45-70 over 12 Gauge, has a stock, 12" bbls, came from the factory with a stock as a title I gun but has been converted to Title II by a manufacturer.

Is it a SBR, SBS, DD, or AOW and is it legal in Indiana?

Go....

 

[lordt313]

WOW! thats a head scratcher! I would say SBR and SBS. If it is indeed SBS then no Indiana legal as I am sure you know but I will be interested to see the other comments on here.

 

[ZbornacSVT]

Has to be AOW/DD.....right? Subscribed

 

[dubsac]

No idea, but is there anyway you could have it by NFA day I would love to shoot it.

 

[Clay]

I would say AOW/DD combo

 

[JTinIN]

Was going to say AOW but is 11" barrel ... pop corn time ;-)


ATF Online - Firearms - Guides - Importation & Verification of Firearms, Ammunition and Implements of War - National Firearms Act Definitions - Any Other Weapon


Any Other Weapon

26 U.S.C. § 5845(E)
For the purposes of the National Firearms Act, the term “Any Other Weapon” means:

• Any weapon or device capable of being concealed on the person from which a shot can be discharged through the energy of an explosive;
• A pistol or revolver having a barrel with a smooth bore designed or redesigned to fire a fixed shotgun shell;
• Weapons with combination shotgun and rifle barrels 12 inches or more, less than 18 inches in length, from which only a single discharge can be made from either barrel without manual reloading; and
• Any such weapon which may be readily restored to fire.

 

[curraheeguns]

Was going to say AOW but is 11" barrel ... pop corn time ;-)


ATF Online - Firearms - Guides - Importation & Verification of Firearms, Ammunition and Implements of War - National Firearms Act Definitions - Any Other Weapon


Any Other Weapon

26 U.S.C. § 5845(E)
For the purposes of the National Firearms Act, the term “Any Other Weapon” means:

• Any weapon or device capable of being concealed on the person from which a shot can be discharged through the energy of an explosive;
• A pistol or revolver having a barrel with a smooth bore designed or redesigned to fire a fixed shotgun shell;
• Weapons with combination shotgun and rifle barrels 12 inches or more, less than 18 inches in length, from which only a single discharge can be made from either barrel without manual reloading; and
• Any such weapon which may be readily restored to fire.

Well, I screwed up the barrel length discription so lets get it out in the open. (was supposed to say 12" - Now Edited)

JT is correct: By federal standards it is an AOW

However, it is still illegal in Indiana as it meets the description of a SBS per Indiana. BoooO!


IC 35-47-1-10
"Sawed-off shotgun"
Sec. 10. "Sawed-off shotgun" means:
(1) a shotgun having one (1) or more barrels less than eighteen

(18) inches in length; and
(2) any weapon made from a shotgun (whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise) if the weapon as modified has an overall length of less than twenty-six (26) inches.
As added by P.L.311-1983, SEC.32.

IC 35-47-1-11
"Shotgun"
Sec. 11. "Shotgun" means a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed shotgun shell to fire through a smooth bore either a number of ball shot or a single projectile for each single pull of the trigger.
As added by P.L.311-1983, SEC.32.

 

[JTinIN]

Darn was thinking a drilling with 12" barrels would be cool ... but still possible ok if the OAL is 26.01 inches or a little bit more ;-)

 

[r6vr6]

What if the shotgun barrel was rifled? Sbr?

 

[ryknoll3]

What if the shotgun barrel was rifled? Sbr?

If the shotgun barrel was rifled, it would be a DD.

 

[9mmsubgun-m11]

Well, I screwed up the barrel length discription so lets get it out in the open. (was supposed to say 12" - Now Edited)

JT is correct: By federal standards it is an AOW

However, it is still illegal in Indiana as it meets the description of a SBS per Indiana. BoooO!


IC 35-47-1-10
"Sawed-off shotgun"
Sec. 10. "Sawed-off shotgun" means:
(1) a shotgun having one (1) or more barrels less than eighteen

(18) inches in length; and
(2) any weapon made from a shotgun (whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise) if the weapon as modified has an overall length of less than twenty-six (26) inches.
As added by P.L.311-1983, SEC.32.

IC 35-47-1-11
"Shotgun"
Sec. 11. "Shotgun" means a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed shotgun shell to fire through a smooth bore either a number of ball shot or a single projectile for each single pull of the trigger.
As added by P.L.311-1983, SEC.32.

How could it be AOW when it came from the factory with a shoulder stock?
By federal standards would'nt it be an SBS?