New gun bills to be aware of in the legislature

[Bill of Rights]

Senator Holdman has introduced SB 94, a bill to repeal the provision of state statute that allows purchase of long guns across state lines for our bordering states for our citizens and theirs.

On the surface, this would seem to be against what we'd want, but the fact is that this provision is what the ATF uses to justify restricting these purchases to only those states.

I support the passage of this bill into law.

At this writing, this appears to be the only gun-related bill being introduced.

Blessings,
Bill

 

[SemperFiUSMC]

You're half right Bill. Repealing this law will allow determining eligibility of rifles and shotguns purchases under federal law. However, it will not expand the geography where you may purchase or sell a firearm. ATF is guided by the GCA, not state law. ATF Online - Firearms - Frequently Asked Questions - Unlicensed Persons

 

[Blue Tile Spook]

I'll have to read up on this a bit. Travis Holdman is my State Senator. If this is a good thing, I'll write him a note of support and thanks. At this moment, I don't know if it is good or bad.

 

[Bill of Rights]

You're half right Bill. Repealing this law will allow determining eligibility of rifles and shotguns purchases under federal law. However, it will not expand the geography where you may purchase or sell a firearm. ATF is guided by the GCA, not state law. ATF Online - Firearms - Frequently Asked Questions - Unlicensed Persons

ATF has given the explanation that because our state law specifies (in accordance with GCA prior to the 1986 amendment) that we may purchase in those specific states it meant we could ONLY purchase in those states.

Q: From whom may an unlicensed person acquire a firearm under the GCA?
A person may only acquire a firearm within the person’s own State, except that he or she may purchase or otherwise acquire a rifle or shotgun, in person, at a licensee’s premises in any State, provided the sale complies with State laws applicable in the State of sale and the State where the purchaser resides. A person may borrow or rent a firearm in any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(b)(3), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30]

(emphasis mine)

So, once the bill becomes law, if I happen to go to a gun store in Texas while visiting family and find a long gun I want, I may purchase it then and there and bring it home with me.

Sec. 46.07. INTERSTATE PURCHASE. A resident of this state may, if not otherwise precluded by law, purchase firearms, ammunition, reloading components, or firearm accessories in another state. This authorization is enacted in conformance with 18 U.S.C. Section 922(b)(3)(A).

Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, Sec. 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974. Renumbered from Penal Code Sec. 46.08 by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, Sec. 1.01, eff. Sept. 1, 1994.
Amended by:
Acts 2009, 81st Leg., R.S., Ch. 280, Sec. 1, eff. May 30, 2009.

I understand your point. ATF is not guided by state law unless they choose to use it to interpret the GCA, where applicable.

Blessings,
Bill

 

[Bill of Rights]

UPDATE:

SB 131 Introduced by Sen. Randolph would would allow owners to forbid firearms at petroleum refineries.

SB 147 Introduced by Sen. Steele would decriminalize the transport of a firearm taken to/from range or possession at a range.

SB 153 Introduced by Senators Steele and Delph would provide for the creation of lifetime hunting/fishing licenses for disabled vets at reduced cost.

SB 154 introduced by Sen. Steele would decriminalize the carry of firearms on off-road or snowmobiles

HB 1036 introduced by Rep. Reske would remove the requirement for vets and retired LEO to take hunter ed course.

Blessings,
Bill

 

[eldirector]

thanks for the updates, Bill! Looks like I have some reading to do and some letters to write.

 

[Disposable Heart]

Sounds good so far: Getting rid of that stupid thing regarding permit needed to go to the range probably holds alot of folks back. Also seems very "sportsman" oriented too in the laws desired.

Randolph seems like a Jagov , trying to legislate common sense. One would think that firing off a gun around all that petrol would be a bad idea...

 

[eldirector]

Sounds good so far: Getting rid of that stupid thing regarding permit needed to go to the range probably holds alot of folks back. Also seems very "sportsman" oriented too in the laws desired.

Randolph seems like a Jagov , trying to legislate common sense. One would think that firing off a gun around all that petrol would be a bad idea...

Sounds like Randolph is trying to add refineries and storage/distribution to the to the parking lot exclusion bill. No thanks.

Besides, Mythbusters already "shot down" the exploding gas tank with a bullet myth.

 

[Bill of Rights]

Sounds like Randolph is trying to add refineries and storage/distribution to the to the parking lot exclusion bill. No thanks.

Besides, Mythbusters already "shot down" the exploding gas tank with a bullet myth.

If you read her bill, that is precisely what she's doing, which is why I colored that one red and the others green.

I would be unsurprised if she passes this, her next goal will be to criminalize possession of a firearm on the grounds or within 1000 yards of a gas station.

Blessings,
Bill

 

[revsaxon]

I would be unsurprised if she passes this, her next goal will be to criminalize possession of a firearm on the grounds or within 1000 yards of a gas station.

That would be bad... I live with 1000 yards of a gas station. I wonder if that would mean I have to move, or if im exempt.

 

[INGunGuy]

I still want to know the legalities of my father, a citizen of the Commonwealth of Kentucky purchasing a handgun and GIVING it to me as a GIFT and I am a citizen of Indiana. Are there any laws I need to be made aware of?

INGunGuy

 

[Bill of Rights]

That would be bad... I live with 1000 yards of a gas station. I wonder if that would mean I have to move, or if im exempt.

It would depend on the phrasing of the law, but the current GFSZ law makes exception for residences within the specified distance from a school.

I still want to know the legalities of my father, a citizen of the Commonwealth of Kentucky purchasing a handgun and GIVING it to me as a GIFT and I am a citizen of Indiana. Are there any laws I need to be made aware of?

INGunGuy

IIRC, he could will it to you as part of his inheritance, but to transfer it otherwise across state lines would require a 01 FFL dealer.

Blessings,
Bill

 

[INGunGuy]

It would depend on the phrasing of the law, but the current GFSZ law makes exception for residences within the specified distance from a school.



IIRC, he could will it to you as part of his inheritance, but to transfer it otherwise across state lines would require a 01 FFL dealer.

Blessings,
Bill

Bill,

Even a father to son transfer huh... wow... well what about him loaning me the gun for an extended period? I know you arent a lawyer, and I am NOT asking for legal advice, just making small talk...

INGunGuy

 

[mk2ja]

SB 147 Introduced by Sen. Steele would decriminalize the transport of a firearm taken to/from range or possession at a range.

This is an excellent idea. We've been saying it amongst ourselves, so it's nice to learn that there's a chance that'll get fixed this session.

SB 154 introduced by Sen. Steele would decriminalize the carry of firearms on off-road or snowmobiles

Sounds good. Would that be without LTCH? Or is it currently illegal to carry on a snowmobile even with LTCH? I'm a little confused on what this one is going to be doing... but I think I like it.

 

[level.eleven]

Sounds good. Would that be without LTCH? Or is it currently illegal to carry on a snowmobile even with LTCH? I'm a little confused on what this one is going to be doing... but I think I like it.

Yeah, my first response to this one was....whoops. I think it may have to do with private vs. public land. Surely it can't be illegal to take a 4 wheeler to the back of of a piece of private property while transporting a firearm.

 

[WaltherFan]

Indiana General Assembly

Link to current Senate Bills covering weapons.

Indiana General Assembly

 

[Tryin']

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[jedi]

UPDATE:

SB 131 Introduced by Sen. Randolph would would allow owners to forbid firearms at petroleum refineries.

SB 147 Introduced by Sen. Steele would decriminalize the transport of a firearm taken to/from range or possession at a range.

SB 153 Introduced by Senators Steele and Delph would provide for the creation of lifetime hunting/fishing licenses for disabled vets at reduced cost.

SB 154 introduced by Sen. Steele would decriminalize the carry of firearms on off-road or snowmobiles

HB 1036 introduced by Rep. Reske would remove the requirement for vets and retired LEO to take hunter ed course.

Blessings,
Bill

What about the text of the bill INGO (special group) was working on regarding OKing LTCH and NON-Public schools when the school is NOT in session?

Any word on where that is going?

 

[kludge]

UPDATE:

SB 147 Introduced by Sen. Steele would decriminalize the transport of a firearm taken to/from range or possession at a range.

It's almost like someone reads this forum.

Maybe we should petition Mr.Steel to add "hunting" then we can get rid of the pesky Qualified license that no one gets anyway.

 

[JohnP82]

Thanks for all the info BOR