National Guard asked to explain 'internment' jobs

[SavageEagle]

I know a lot of you don't trust WND.com, but they give credible sources and all of them are verifiable. If this doesn't raise red flags I don't know what does.

Now you may dismiss this as "Oh, it's just because they plan to transport terrorists to the USA." Well, that may be, but look at the bigger picture. I don't care anymore. Call me paranoid. Call me a kook. If any of this materializes into the worst case, I'll be ready. If not, THANK GOD! Pay attention, stay alert, and don't become complacent.

I know there's a lot going on and there's a lot being fed to you all at once, but we have to stay vigilant. We can't let our guard down. it's what they want. If we do so, they will win.

Read the whole article here... National Guard asked to explain 'internment' jobs

[FONT=Palatino, Times New Roman, Georgia, Times, serif]By Bob Unruh[/FONT]
[SIZE=-1]© 2009 WorldNetDaily [/SIZE]
An [COLOR=blue !important][COLOR=blue !important]ad [COLOR=blue !important]campaign[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] featured on a U.S. Army [COLOR=blue !important][COLOR=blue !important]website[/COLOR][/COLOR] seeking those who would be interested in being an "Internment/Resettlement" specialist is raising alarms across the country, generating concerns that there is some truth in those theories about domestic detention camps, a roundup of dissidents and a crackdown on "threatening" conservatives.
The ads, at the GoArmy.com website as well as others including Monster.com, cite the need for:

"Internment/Resettlement (I/R) Specialists in the Army are primarily responsible for day-to-day [COLOR=blue !important][COLOR=blue !important]operations[/COLOR][/COLOR] in a military confinement/correctional facility or detention/internment facility. I/R Specialists provide rehabilitative, [COLOR=blue !important][COLOR=blue !important]health[/COLOR][/COLOR], welfare, and security to U.S. military prisoners within a confinement or correctional facility; conduct inspections; prepare written reports; and coordinate activities of prisoners/internees and staff personnel.​

The campaign follows by only weeks a report from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security warning about "right-wing extremists" who could pose a danger to the country – including those who support third-party political candidates, oppose abortion and would prefer to have the U.S. immigration [COLOR=blue !important][COLOR=blue !important]laws[/COLOR][/COLOR] already on the books enforced.

The "extremism" report coincided with a report out of California that the Department of Defense was describing protesters as "low-level terrorists."
The new ad says successful candidates will "provide external security to … detention/internment facilities" and "provide [COLOR=blue !important][COLOR=blue !important]counseling[/COLOR][/COLOR] and guidance to individual prisoners within a rehabilitative program."
Officials at the state and federal National Guard levels told WND they were unaware of the program, although one officer speculated it could be intended for soldiers trained in the U.S. and dispatched overseas to "detention facilities." From the national level, WND was told, officials were unaware of any such "internment facilities" at which there could be jobs to be available.

"I saw something that didn't sit right with me. I posted it so other people can investigate," he said.
A commenter on the YouTube site pooh-poohed the whole suggestion.
"You have … put out a relatively benign fact, twisted it into something sinister, and then did a tinfoil-hat connection to give a false impression," the forum participant wrote.
The ads list as "advanced responsibilities" issues such as supervision and [COLOR=blue !important][COLOR=blue !important]administration[/COLOR][/COLOR], responsibility for the "prisoner/internee" population, "custody/control for the operation of an Enemy Prisoner of War/Civilian Internee (EPW/CI) camp," and work on "custody/control for the operation of detention facility or the operation of a displaced civilian (CD) resettlement facility."
An editorial at CanadaFreePress.com raised some overall concerns:

Let's look at some of the evidence we have of the U.S. government's intentions to establish the infrastructure that could be used to house large numbers of political dissidents, so-called terrorists and other individuals the U.S. government wants locked up.

HR 645 the National Emergency Centers Establishment Act is a proposed bill in the U.S. House of Representatives that would authorize FEMA to build no less than six National Emergency Centers throughout the U.S. on closed or open military facilities. These facilities are to be designed to house large numbers of people. Why would emergency centers need to be built on closed or open military facilities unless there was a need to keep people from coming in and out of them?

KBR was granted a government contract a few years ago to build facilities to [COLOR=blue !important][COLOR=blue !important]house[/COLOR][/COLOR] illegal immigrants. Now with illegal immigration becoming less of a problem with the U.S. economy in the toilet, these facilities can now be used for other purposes.​

"This is just another step in the U.S. government's long term plan to build the infrastructure that could be used to contain wide spread popular revolt. Combine this with the swine flu fear mongering and the potential for a mass swine flu vaccination operation and it is easy to see what might happen. Refuse to take their poisonous vaccine and you might risk being locked up as being a hazard to public safety. With the economy in the toilet and more and more people not trusting either political party or the corporate media, the 'powers that be' realize that they need to continue building their martial law apparatus. These Army National Guard job listings are just another piece to that puzzle proving what we already know is being built," the editorial claimed.

 

[jeremy]

This was all ready posted by Raiven!

The jobs posting is for 31E which are the people in the Army who maintain and staff the Army Correctional Facilities. Nothing more sinister than normal recruitment.

 

[SavageEagle]

Back through three pages of threads I found no such thread.

Regardless, look at the bigger picture. The threat of "Flu Epidemic", the Beech Grove "Train Station" which people are starting to think of as a "Seperation Station" for the "Flu Epidemic", the threat of revolt, UN troops being brought in in record numbers... None of this throws a red flag for you?

 

[jeremy]

The last people the Alphabet Agencies are going to assign as jailer is going to be the Military. You do realize Veterans and Serving Members of the Armed Forces are considered Terrorists...

Besides the Guard is a state run group. Someone was really reaching when they put that article together. On Monster.com the Military is also recruiting mechanics, firefighters, medics, cooks, supply personnel, pilots, Rangers, Special Forces, and a huge listing of every job in the service. I suppose we are also going to see the Military supplant your local Fire Departments too. Or since the Military hires cooks we are going to see the Government take over all the restaurants and caters!

 

[MoparMan]

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...p_or_internment_resettlement_specialists.html

 

[SavageEagle]

The last people the Alphabet Agencies are going to assign as jailer is going to be the Military. You do realize Veterans and Serving Members of the Armed Forces are considered Terrorists...

Besides the Guard is a state run group. Someone was really reaching when they put that article together. On Monster.com the Military is also recruiting mechanics, firefighters, medics, cooks, supply personnel, pilots, Rangers, Special Forces, and a huge listing of every job in the service. I suppose we are also going to see the Military supplant your local Fire Departments too. Or since the Military hires cooks we are going to see the Government take over all the restaurants and caters!

The National Guard is also legally allowed to help supplement the police forces as well. Or did you not know that?

 

[in625shooter]

The National Guard is also legally allowed to help supplement the police forces as well. Or did you not know that?

To add to this. the National Guard (both Air and Army) have two missions. State and Federal. The guard can be activated by the Governor to enforce state laws in an emergency. this is to normally supplement the civilian LE. Also all 50 governors/states have agreements with each other so if an LA riot happened "again" a unit at say FT Wayne could be activated on state orders and shipped to California at Californias request. This is usually in a dire circumstance as no Governor wants to give the impression of marshal law which it isn't. My unit sent a squad to Hattisberg Mississippi to supplement their police dpartment in 05 when hurricane Katrina hit. They rode with the HPD officers and were just a supplement to their efforts incase things got bad.
A lot of people argue because they don't like/agree with this but it does and has happen and is legal!

 

[agentl074]

To add to this. the National Guard (both Air and Army) have two missions. State and Federal. The guard can be activated by the Governor to enforce state laws in an emergency. this is to normally supplement the civilian LE. Also all 50 governors/states have agreements with each other so if an LA riot happened "again" a unit at say FT Wayne could be activated on state orders and shipped to California at California's request. This is usually in a dire circumstance as no Governor wants to give the impression of marshal law which it isn't. My unit sent a squad to Hattisberg Mississippi to supplement their police department in 05 when hurricane Katrina hit. They rode with the HPD officers and were just a supplement to their efforts in case things got bad.
A lot of people argue because they don't like/agree with this but it does and has happen and is legal!

Yep. The difference is that the National Guard take an oath to the Indiana Constitution in addition to the U.S. Constitution. Army and Air Guard are state forces until they are federalized.

 

[SavageEagle]

Which proves my point. And again, I'm not questioning those here. I'm just saying that a lot of soldiers, like civilians, don't understand their oath and would be willing to do whatever their "orders" say. This is why I hope that all Service men and women are talking with their fellow soldiers about their oath and duty. Unfortunately, some just won't care.

 

[agentl074]

Which proves my point. And again, I'm not questioning those here. I'm just saying that a lot of soldiers, like civilians, don't understand their oath and would be willing to do whatever their "orders" say. This is why I hope that all Service men and women are talking with their fellow soldiers about their oath and duty. Unfortunately, some just won't care.

There lies the responsibility of the good Commissioned and Noncommissioned officers — to ensure that their troops know the oath that they took — and that oath takes precedence over all other orders!

 

[in625shooter]

Which proves my point. And again, I'm not questioning those here. I'm just saying that a lot of soldiers, like civilians, don't understand their oath and would be willing to do whatever their "orders" say. This is why I hope that all Service men and women are talking with their fellow soldiers about their oath and duty. Unfortunately, some just won't care.

If you are meaning knowing the difference between your oath and some sort of say off their rocker officer/NCO giving an "illegal order" I can only comment on the AF Security Forces (formerly Security Police) side. We had a good amount of checks and balances in place. It was not normally an issue since most of us worked some kind of civilian LE on the civilian side so everyone was well versed on the "rights" of the people. So if we had a CO that had no clue they counted on us senior NCO's. In the case some one (Usually a NCO that cross trained) had a "bad idea" If we couldn't "convince" him we used our chain of command and it got shut down. also JAG was excellent due to that all of them were practicing attorney/prosecutor of some sort.

Actually we had more issue with active duty troops that had no clue on civilian LE when we were back filling at active duty bases. 22 year old airman think they know everything and are all that and a bag of chips! Even then thugh if they crossed the line it was usually brought up to JAG or the wing CO through complaint channels and was addressed and corrected.

Not knocking any active duty troops I was one once but sometimes they just lack exposure plus there is a slight difference in military LE and civilian LE.

 

[mrjarrell]

How many troops in the last 100 years have defended the Constitution against the domestic enemies who have eviscerated it? They've done an admirable job against foreign enemies.

 

[HICKMAN]

Which proves my point. And again, I'm not questioning those here. I'm just saying that a lot of soldiers, like civilians, don't understand their oath and would be willing to do whatever their "orders" say. This is why I hope that all Service men and women are talking with their fellow soldiers about their oath and duty. Unfortunately, some just won't care.

Ummm, NO they won't....

 

[in625shooter]

How many troops in the last 100 years have defended the Constitution against the domestic enemies who have eviscerated it? They've done an admirable job against foreign enemies.

I gave an example of this as close as I could come up with one ealyer in this post. This one probably wont qualify for defense against a domestic terrorist (whatever that really is) but in 2001 several guardmembers were activated during the McVey execution. they were on standby at Hulman Field ANGB. They were inplace to supplement Terre Haute PD if needed.

Not that our system is perfect but it's about as good as it can be compaired to other countries. It sort of says something that there has not been a real need for troops to be in the streets actually defending IE fighting here!

 

[SavageEagle]

Ummm, NO they won't....

Are you willing to bet your life that every single soldier won't? I'm not.

And what about Federal Agents? I forgot to include them as well. And Mercenaries.

 

[agentl074]

If you are meaning knowing the difference between your oath and some sort of say off their rocker officer/NCO giving an "illegal order" I can only comment on the AF Security Forces (formerly Security Police) side. We had a good amount of checks and balances in place. It was not normally an issue since most of us worked some kind of civilian LE on the civilian side so everyone was well versed on the "rights" of the people. So if we had a CO that had no clue they counted on us senior NCO's. In the case some one (Usually a NCO that cross trained) had a "bad idea" If we couldn't "convince" him we used our chain of command and it got shut down. also JAG was excellent due to that all of them were practicing attorney/prosecutor of some sort.

Actually we had more issue with active duty troops that had no clue on civilian LE when we were back filling at active duty bases. 22 year old airman think they know everything and are all that and a bag of chips! Even then though if they crossed the line it was usually brought up to JAG or the wing CO through complaint channels and was addressed and corrected.

Not knocking any active duty troops I was one once but sometimes they just lack exposure plus there is a slight difference in military LE and civilian LE.

Just a bit man lol. I didn't know squat when I transitioned from active SF to sheriff reserves but I learned quick lol.

 

[MyGlockRocks19]

I'd like to believe that our armed forces serve the country first, and the government second. This may not always be the case, but I've never met a man or woman in uniform that caused me to doubt it.

And then again, there's always us...its hard to herd people onto trains when they're shooting back.

 

[SavageEagle]

And then again, there's always us...its hard to herd people onto trains when they're shooting back.

Right On!

 

[HICKMAN]

Are you willing to bet your life that every single soldier won't? I'm not.

And what about Federal Agents? I forgot to include them as well. And Mercenaries.

I challenge you to find one single vet or soldier currently serving who'd follow orders like that. Fact is, you won't.

As far as fed agents, that was not the topic.

 

[SavageEagle]

I challenge you to find one single vet or soldier currently serving who'd follow orders like that. Fact is, you won't.

As far as fed agents, that was not the topic.

Like anyone of them would admit to it. That is if they could recognize an illegal order. I'm sure some can't. Even if Fed's are not the topic, it merits mention.