Nation Wide CCW

[melensdad]

If this passes then we don't need the Florida and Utah licenses to get more states to carry in, is this correct?

yes

 

[Manan]

Would be great if their was a nationwide conceal carry reciprocity between the states, similar to drivers licenses. But unfortunately, I doubt that it will happen, particularly within the current administration.

 

[Blue Tile Spook]

John Thune is doing a heckuva job this morning in showing what is ACTUALLY, FACTUALLY in the amendment. Go John!

 

[henktermaat]

John Thune is doing a heckuva job this morning in showing what is ACTUALLY, FACTUALLY in the amendment. Go John!

Watch live: C-SPAN2 Live Stream - C-SPAN

 

[ian2000gsxr]

they are tallying the votes now on cpan2

 

[femurphy77]

Denied!!

 

[ATM]

I would like to put in a late vote for NO based on a congressional rule change.



ETA: Of course, I maintain that Wisconsin and Illinois suck.

 

[bigg cheese]

I for one hope that this does not pass.

This, to me, is an attempt to federalize a states issue.

What the federal government is trying to do appease the masses by making a federal law that we like. We complain when it passes blanket country-wide laws that infringe on our second amendment rights (and in turn look to the states as our rule), but when it tries to pass a law that supports them, we support it?

It's trying to appease us first, so that we agree that it has the final say, and then later it will abuse that authority.

 

[henktermaat]

I for one hope that this does not pass.

This, to me, is an attempt to federalize a states issue.

What the federal government is trying to do appease the masses by making a federal law that we like. We complain when it passes blanket country-wide laws that infringe on our second amendment rights (and in turn look to the states as our rule), but when it tries to pass a law that supports them, we support it?

It's trying to appease us first, so that we agree that it has the final say, and then later it will abuse that authority.

2nd amendment is a bill of rights issues- This bill would have lessened the limitations currently existing on a fundamental, nationwide right.

 

[bigg cheese]

It almost seems like these legislators think the Second Amendment needs clarifying.

It's pretty obvious what it means, and just doing what it says should suffice.

 

[wally05]

I for one hope that this does not pass.

This, to me, is an attempt to federalize a states issue.

What the federal government is trying to do appease the masses by making a federal law that we like. We complain when it passes blanket country-wide laws that infringe on our second amendment rights (and in turn look to the states as our rule), but when it tries to pass a law that supports them, we support it?

It's trying to appease us first, so that we agree that it has the final say, and then later it will abuse that authority.

I disagree. It's the people in the government trying to actually restore rights that shouldn't be limited by the states in the first place.

 

[indykid]

For what it's worth, Lugar must go!!!

Senate record on who voted:

U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 111th Congress - 1st Session

as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate

Vote Summary

Question: On the Amendment (Thune Amdt. No. 1618 )
Vote Number: 237
Vote Date: July 22, 2009, 12:01 PM
Required For Majority: 3/5
Vote Result: Amendment Rejected
Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 1618 to S. 1390 (National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2010)
Statement of Purpose: To amend chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, to allow citizens who have concealed carry permits from the State in which they reside to carry concealed firearms in another State that grants concealed carry permits, if the individual complies with the laws of the State.
Vote Counts: YEAs 58 NAYs 39 Not Voting 3

Alphabetical by Senator Name Akaka (D-HI), Nay
Alexander (R-TN), Yea
Barrasso (R-WY), Yea
Baucus (D-MT), Yea
Bayh (D-IN), Yea
Begich (D-AK), Yea
Bennet (D-CO), Yea
Bennett (R-UT), Yea
Bingaman (D-NM), Nay
Bond (R-MO), Yea
Boxer (D-CA), Nay
Brown (D-OH), Nay
Brownback (R-KS), Yea
Bunning (R-KY), Yea
Burr (R-NC), Yea
Burris (D-IL), Nay
Byrd (D-WV), Not Voting
Cantwell (D-WA), Nay
Cardin (D-MD), Nay
Carper (D-DE), Nay
Casey (D-PA), Yea
Chambliss (R-GA), Yea
Coburn (R-OK), Yea
Cochran (R-MS), Yea
Collins (R-ME), Yea
Conrad (D-ND), Yea
Corker (R-TN), Yea
Cornyn (R-TX), Yea
Crapo (R-ID), Yea
DeMint (R-SC), Yea
Dodd (D-CT), Nay
Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
Durbin (D-IL), Nay
Ensign (R-NV), Yea
Enzi (R-WY), Yea
Feingold (D-WI), Yea
Feinstein (D-CA), Nay
Franken (D-MN), Nay
Gillibrand (D-NY), Nay
Graham (R-SC), Yea
Grassley (R-IA), Yea
Gregg (R-NH), Yea
Hagan (D-NC), Yea
Harkin (D-IA), Nay
Hatch (R-UT), Yea
Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Inhofe (R-OK), Yea
Inouye (D-HI), Nay
Isakson (R-GA), Yea
Johanns (R-NE), Yea
Johnson (D-SD), Yea
Kaufman (D-DE), Nay
Kennedy (D-MA), Not Voting
Kerry (D-MA), Nay
Klobuchar (D-MN), Nay
Kohl (D-WI), Nay
Kyl (R-AZ), Yea
Landrieu (D-LA), Yea
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Nay
Leahy (D-VT), Nay
Levin (D-MI), Nay
Lieberman (ID-CT), Nay
Lincoln (D-AR), Yea
Lugar (R-IN), Nay
Martinez (R-FL), Yea
McCain (R-AZ), Yea
McCaskill (D-MO), Nay
McConnell (R-KY), Yea
Menendez (D-NJ), Nay
Merkley (D-OR), Nay
Mikulski (D-MD), Not Voting
Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
Murray (D-WA), Nay
Nelson (D-FL), Nay
Nelson (D-NE), Yea
Pryor (D-AR), Yea
Reed (D-RI), Nay
Reid (D-NV), Yea
Risch (R-ID), Yea
Roberts (R-KS), Yea
Rockefeller (D-WV), Nay
Sanders (I-VT), Nay
Schumer (D-NY), Nay
Sessions (R-AL), Yea
Shaheen (D-NH), Nay
Shelby (R-AL), Yea
Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Specter (D-PA), Nay
Stabenow (D-MI), Nay
Tester (D-MT), Yea
Thune (R-SD), Yea
Udall (D-CO), Yea
Udall (D-NM), Yea
Vitter (R-LA), Yea
Voinovich (R-OH), Nay
Warner (D-VA), Yea
Webb (D-VA), Yea
Whitehouse (D-RI), Nay
Wicker (R-MS), Yea
Wyden (D-OR), Nay