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[OWGEM]

My friend and I shot the other day and he was shooting his S&W 386 .357 snubby. He had some pretty hot rounds, 158gr @ 1300 fps. I shot a video and got some screen captures. Needless to say I don't stand near him!

 

[Mr.Lubie]

Nice pics! Thanks for sharing

 

[Mosinguy]

That second one is crazy

 

[indygunguy]

Great pics!

 

[85t5mcss]

How is his camera shooting a flame like that? Didn't realize a Canon or Nikon could do stuff like that. However, I have seen a hand cannon do that. Sorry, couldn't resist. I do like the screen capture, though. This is no photoshop, right? Because that second image is pretty crazy looking.

 

[PGRChaplain]

That's some sloooooow burning powder

 

[OWGEM]

No photoshop, it's the real thing!

 

[OiRadio47]

I have heard .357 doesn't have any advantage over a .38 round in a snubby. The barrel isn't long enough to use all that energy, so instead you just get a big fireball.

It's been awhile, but remember seeing a chart on velocity between the two rounds out of a snubby, and there wasn't much difference.

Any input on this?

 

[OWGEM]

I think the photos show that there is some energy lost in the snubby, and it looks not small.

 

[Indy_Guy_77]

I have heard .357 doesn't have any advantage over a .38 round in a snubby. The barrel isn't long enough to use all that energy, so instead you just get a big fireball.

It's been awhile, but remember seeing a chart on velocity between the two rounds out of a snubby, and there wasn't much difference.

Any input on this?

you have heard incorrectly.

Speer Gold Dot 135gr .38 Special +p "Short Barrel" = 860FPS and 222ft lb @ the muzzle.

Speer Gold Dot 135gr .357Mag "Short Barrel" = 990FPS and 290ft lb @ the muzzle.

These numbers come from Speer's website. Easily looked up/verified.

That's a THIRTY PERCENT increase in energy at the muzzle.

Don't just go by "what you hear"... do some homework and look stuff up!

-J-

 

[Fixer]

Haven't taken any pics but there is a considerable flash from the 2" 357 LCR I have. I think we need an INGO test of the 38+P vs. 357 on a chorny and post the results.

 

[dom1104]

my snub is a 2 3/4 inch barrel, nobody ever publishes numbers for that length.

So I take the 2" number and the 3" number and split the diff.

 

[Wysko]

Super camera work! Thats quite the flamethrower.

 

[CopperT]

Great pic. Looks like a flame thrower.

 

[RandomName]

I have heard .357 doesn't have any advantage over a .38 round in a snubby. The barrel isn't long enough to use all that energy, so instead you just get a big fireball.

It's been awhile, but remember seeing a chart on velocity between the two rounds out of a snubby, and there wasn't much difference.

Any input on this?

This is generally true, but like most general rules has exceptions. With the popularity of snubbies some companies do make a faster burn .357 that will see some gains out of the short barrel. Another poster has already put up an example.

Traditional .357 rounds were concocted with a 6-8" barrel being optimal, though, and with those what you get is more recoil and muzzle flash without much difference in fps. There's more variety in factory ammo now, though, and you can get rounds tuned for short barrel, tuned for longer (carbine) barrels, or traditional. Just make sure you know what you are getting and match it to what you want to run it through for optimal results.

Personally, I use .38 +p in my sub-2" barrel revolvers. I've tried .357 and found that it was slower for followup shots (especially off hand only) and the muzzle blast was distracting in low light conditions. I'd like to try a .45 moon clip revolver and see how it compares but no one I know has one and I'm not willing to drop the kind of cash it takes to buy one just to test it.

 

[Indy_Guy_77]

This is generally true, but like most general rules has exceptions. With the popularity of snubbies some companies do make a faster burn .357 that will see some gains out of the short barrel. Another poster has already put up an example.

Traditional .357 rounds were concocted with a 6-8" barrel being optimal, though, and with those what you get is more recoil and muzzle flash without much difference in fps. There's more variety in factory ammo now, though, and you can get rounds tuned for short barrel, tuned for longer (carbine) barrels, or traditional. Just make sure you know what you are getting and match it to what you want to run it through for optimal results.

Personally, I use .38 +p in my sub-2" barrel revolvers. I've tried .357 and found that it was slower for followup shots (especially off hand only) and the muzzle blast was distracting in low light conditions. I'd like to try a .45 moon clip revolver and see how it compares but no one I know has one and I'm not willing to drop the kind of cash it takes to buy one just to test it.

Hence my post earlier about using Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel ammo - both out of a 2" barreled gun.

-J-

 

[Mackey]

Great shots. I like the look on the shooters face... it's like:

"Doo too-doo-doo " FLAMETHROWER "Doo-too-doo"

 

[RandomName]

Hence my post earlier about using Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel ammo - both out of a 2" barreled gun.

-J-

Hence my comment "Another poster already put up an example". I'm not sure what you're getting at.

 

[Beansay]

What kind of camera did you use to get those muzzle blast shots. Great timing too. Looks fun.

 

[jtdet01]

Great pics , thanks for sharing