SWAT is used more than it should be nationwide in my current opinion and until I'm shown proof it's not that's what I'm sticking with.
And you make this claim using what data?
SWAT is used more than it should be nationwide in my current opinion and until I'm shown proof it's not that's what I'm sticking with.
Your wrong, it did not help catch the bombing suspect. A man who went out to smoke a cigarette after they gave the ok for his area to be off lockdown seen the kid in his boat and called the police. Dont go around thinking these BS searches are what fou d this guy.
You are correct to a point. Had it not been for the lock down would this suspect have been able to flee the area? As an officer when we are looking for a bad guy such as a burglar, we are set a perimeter that attempts to contain bad guys. So, you are correct the homeowner found him and called police to arrest him.
It's not actualy a claim its my current perception. I didn't say it was fact 100% locked in stone.And you make this claim using what data?
And you make this claim using what data?
That is correct. And with respect to the dedicated LEO's here on INGO, the awful truth is that while the cops and SWAT were busy forcing law abiding citizens out of their houses AT GUN POINT and storming their way in, they completely missed Tsarnaev who was hiding in a boat in someones BACKYARD. Tunnelvision much? He almost got away because of the myopia of the JBT's that were so intent on rousting the general public and finally getting to put into practice the urban assault tactics that they had been training for and show how good they were at it. EPIC FAIL.
What we haven't seen or heard about is the innocent, law abiding citizens who were manhandled and zip tied because they questioned and/or resisted armed intruders STORMING THEIR HOME WITHOUT A WARRANT (it is the nature of these things. Especially living in America where we are supposed to be free and the people still think they have rights). When quietly canvassing the neighborhoods, keeping hyper vigilant and checking EVERY nook and cranny the way things used to be done, would apparently have yielded better results. All the while NOT violating anyone's Civil Rights. And I have seen absolutely nothing about this in the media. 25 years ago that would have been a huge question mark as far as the media were concerned.
This is where our Government has brought us. Does anyone honestly think that it will willingly put things back without being made to?
You are correct to a point. Had it not been for the lock down would this suspect have been able to flee the area? As an officer when we are looking for a bad guy such as a burglar, we are set a perimeter that attempts to contain bad guys. So, you are correct the homeowner found him and called police to arrest him.
And you make this claim using what data?
He was found outside the search perimeter.
OK, those are examples of possible misuse of a SWAT team but you said they are used too often. Any proof of that?
So I've answered your question now tit for tat please.
What data do you use to counter my perception that swat teams are overused?
Once again, every misuse is use one time too often. This nonsense has appears to have almost completely displaced conventional warrant service.
I don't know if there is "conventional" warrant service. As you may or may nor know many of the drug warrants have a great possibility of guns being present. It only makes sense to send those properly equipped to handle it. And just because a raid goes bad and the wrong house is hit for whatever reason does not mean it is a misuse of SWAT. I guarantee NO SWAT member wants to raid the wrong house.
I really don't care what you profess to guarantee. If you have such a problem with potential danger to the point that you can't find an acceptable way to deal with it without endangering others, then find a different job.
Sadly, use of a SWAT team is acceptable for an armed drug raid. All drug raids are presumed to be armed because dealer like to protect their wares. I don't have a problem with potential danger I PREPARE for it just like you do.
I hate to have to say this, but that preparedness (on the parts of the residents in question) is exactly the reason why hitting the wrong place can be inherently dangerous.
I hate to have to say this, but that preparedness (on the parts of the residents in question) is exactly the reason why hitting the wrong place can be inherently dangerous.
Do you think he didn't see all of the cops flooding the entire area and was forced to lay low? How would he have known what the perimeter boundaries were? I doubt he was watching CNN while hiding.