Is H110 the same powder as Win 296?

[Chaplain45]

I saw this statement on a forum "H110 is the same powder as Win 296". I have some Win 296 powder but do not see it listed as a choice in my Lee or Hornady manual. I'm a rookie and load 45 acp, 38 spl, and 9 mm. Can someone verify or refute?

 

[mssmith44]

They are listed as the same, but totally unsuitable for the listed calibers.
44 mag and 357 mag max loads are the normal uses.

 

[CCC]

Quick answer = Yes

Hodgdon - The Gun Powder People

Look at Reloading data from Hodgdon they own Winchester and IMR brand powders.

 

[oldpink]

I use Winchester 296 for all of my heaviest .45 Colt loadings, and it's exactly the same powder as H110.
As CCC pointed out, Hodgdon now owns IMR and WInchester, and 296 is H110 rebranded under the Winchester name.
Also, as pointed out, 296/H110 is a magnum powder, completely unsuitable for any responsible .45 ACP, .38 Special, or 9mm loads.
It's terrific in .357 Magnum, .44 Magnum, .454 Casull and similar cartridges (as well as .45 Colt in guns that can handle it), as long as you use only magnum primers and load either maximum or no less than 10% below maximum.

 

[jedi]

Lets not forget that the .30 carbine round also loves H110/W296.
And it works great in the M1 30 Carbine.

 

[Chaplain45]

Thanks for the input. The Hodgdon site is very helpful. I Own a 450 Bushmaster and do find 296 listed there but I have not reloaded that caliber yet. The Hornady manual doesn't suggest a magnum primer just WSR. I Hope to someday own and reload either 45 Colt or 44 Magnum lever action and could use the 296 there as well. I definitely appreciate the warning to not use it in my current calibers.

 

[Broom_jm]

Lets not forget that the .30 carbine round also loves H110/W296.
And it works great in the M1 30 Carbine.

H110 works so well in the 30 Carbine because when Hodgdon first started repackaging the surplus powder, he named this one after the weight of the bullet most commonly used in that cartridge; a 110 grain round nose. So, the name for the commercial powder we call H110 actually comes from surplus powder originally used in the 30 Carbine. H110 and W296 are the same powder in containers with a different label, but there can still be lot-to-lot variances that will cause one lot of H110 to burn a little differently than a separate lot of powder used in cans labeled for W296. That is why some manuals will sometimes show very slight differences in loads for these powders.

As a side note: H380 powder was named because 38.0 grains of such, in a 22-250, was the pet load of Bruce Hodgdon. Man, reloading is cool!

 

[tallend]

I guess no one here shoots .410 skeet?

tallend

 

[trophyhunter]

I saw this statement on a forum "H110 is the same powder as Win 296". I have some Win 296 powder but do not see it listed as a choice in my Lee or Hornady manual. I'm a rookie and load 45 acp, 38 spl, and 9 mm. Can someone verify or refute?

It rolls off the very same end of the lot batches produced at General Dynamics St. Marks power works in FL and get's blended for cannister grade under both of those labels.