Indiana's Push for Medical Marijuana

[Hatin Since 87]

Maybe. But many of them are also depending on subsistance transfer payments to sustain that standard of living. As long as that's happening, people will have a case for having a say in what choices you get to make. Cover your own nut, pay for all of the ramifications, including all of the collateral damage of your decisions, and your neighbor has zero grounds for interfering with your life.

I think marijuana should be legal. I also think if you receive any form of government payment you should be required to take a drug test. Collect food stamps? Drug test. If you fail your food stamps are revoked. You shouldn’t be spending money on a buzz if you have to take others money to survive.

 

[Expat]

We pay healthcare costs for anyone who falls below poverty line, by this reasoning govt should restrict anything that could negatively affect health.

If you are going to be on the public dole, why not. Employers are beginning to penalize and reward healthy lifestyles as part of their compensation programs.

Also it sounds like we're lumping weed in with heroin. Most lazy stoners are still able to hold down a job at taco bell to support their habit. There aren't a many strung out stoners begging on the corner just trying to fill their next bowl.

Personally I don't care if you want to use heroin. I don't think we should do anything to save you either or once again, don't ask me to pay for your choices.

 

[Ziggidy]

This is the decision I've made for myself. I'm not inclined to make that decision for others.

Even when their decisions negatively impact your life, your wallet?

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Personally I don't care if you want to use heroin. I don't think we should do anything to save you either or once again, don't ask me to pay for your choices.

Way too many folks want personal freedom and socialized consequences.

 

[Route 45]

Even when their decisions negatively impact your life, your wallet?

Where is this utopia where nothing ever negatively impacts my life or wallet because of other people's choices?

Wherever it is, I would bet that the population is 1.

 

[Jludo]

I'd argue too many are willing to throw out freedoms in protest of the socialized consequences.
I'd also point out the costs of our drug enforcement policy are also socialized and substantial.
Keeping drugs illegal is far from free.

If someone could show you that (cost of legal marijuana + tax revenue offset) < (cost of drug enforcement + incarceration) would minds be changed on the subject?

 

[phylodog]

I'd argue too many are willing to throw out freedoms in protest of the socialized consequences.
I'd also point out the costs of our drug enforcement policy are also socialized and substantial.
Keeping drugs illegal is far from free.

If someone could show you that (cost of legal marijuana + tax revenue offset) < (cost of drug enforcement + incarceration) would minds be changed on the subject?

From what I’ve seen here I’d say that’s a no. It isn’t a money issue, it’s a control issue and anything some people find icky they want banned.

 

[BugI02]

From what I’ve seen here I’d say that’s a no. It isn’t a money issue, it’s a control issue and anything some people find icky they want banned.

Yeah, like driving as fast as I dare. I'm not hurting anybody (unless I have a big moment). You should just have faith in my skills

Freedom!

 

[phylodog]

Troll all you’d like hero, you’ve not made a valid point yet so I guess that’s what you’ve got left.

 

[BugI02]

Yes, except for the excellent before and after data from Washington state that you persist in ignoring, I got nothin'. Lolz

 

[phylodog]

Lol is right

 

[BugI02]

I'm not the one who needs to claim people who don't agree with my wants have sinister motives

And you know I live in Ohio, yes? What difference does it make what I think? What does it say about people who are so triggered by any disagreement with their wants and desires.

 

[BugI02]

I'm not the one who needs to claim people who don't agree with my wants have sinister motives

And you know I live in Ohio, yes? What difference does it make what I think? What does it say about people who are so triggered by any disagreement with their wants and desires.

edit: tapping out, you win dude. Knock yerself out

 

[phylodog]

I’m not triggered by your disagreement, I’ll admit to being agitated by your character.

I don’t care where you live. Eventually legalization will come to be a national debate. When that happens I’d prefer there were as many people as possible who understand that what I do to or with myself in the privacy of my property is not their business. Those who are incapable of understanding that I wish would move to a country where the government decides what color toilet paper they use, how many kids they have (you know, so as not to interfere with you driving as fast as you want). They’re obviously not suited to living in a country based on freedom.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I’m not triggered by your disagreement, I’ll admit to being agitated by your character.

I don’t care where you live. Eventually legalization will come to be a national debate. When that happens I’d prefer there were as many people as possible who understand that what I do to or with myself in the privacy of my property is not their business. Those who are incapable of understanding that I wish would move to a country where the government decides what color toilet paper they use, how many kids they have (you know, so as not to interfere with you driving as fast as you want). They’re obviously not suited to living in a country based on freedom.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to phylodog again.

 

[bwframe]

When was it pot was made illegal in this country? In Indiana?

 

[Trigger Time]

Why is it so important for everyone to be able to get high? The high is (or can be) associated with so much more bad than good? It alters judgment and decision making, which can badly impact life. Alcohol is no better. Both are bad for the body, changes one's ability to make clear judgement calls, can badly affect others, and both are bad for your own body. They both cause increased burden on society by means of healthcare, property loss, lost income, and general support.

Nothing good will come of it. Nothing.

Thats the way I feel about supporting democrats, but some people still choose to do it.

 

[Trigger Time]

I’m not triggered by your disagreement, I’ll admit to being agitated by your character.

I don’t care where you live. Eventually legalization will come to be a national debate. When that happens I’d prefer there were as many people as possible who understand that what I do to or with myself in the privacy of my property is not their business. Those who are incapable of understanding that I wish would move to a country where the government decides what color toilet paper they use, how many kids they have (you know, so as not to interfere with you driving as fast as you want). They’re obviously not suited to living in a country based on freedom.

Phylodog gets it. This is a Patriot. A man who walked (walks) the walk and talks the talk.


People thinks its all about getting high. No its actually not. I hate having a "high" or drugged feeling from medication. I dont abuse anything now. I wont abuse weed if its legal. I have prescribed meds that make weed look like apple juice.
If I ever get to the point where my pain is so great that legal drugs wont touch it because of beurocrats restricting them so much that REAL doctors cant even treat their own patient's, then i will use whatever legal or illegal means necessary to have some sort of quality of life.
Same with guns. If politicians legistlate my natural rights away, i will willingly and proudly become a criminal. Because I will never surrender my right to self defense.
Freedom vs oppression. This is what every major issue in this country comes down to.
Its a bunch of nosey people more concerned with what their neighbors do than minding their own damn business.

 

[Route 45]

I’m not triggered by your disagreement, I’ll admit to being agitated by your character.

I'd bet that some here are agitated by my character, but at least I didn't cross internet state lines to annoy anyone.

 

[jamil]

Even when their decisions negatively impact your life, your wallet?

People do it regardless. If I’m paying a cost for other people to get high, I’m paying it either way. There’s a lot more cost in arresting, prosecuting, and incarcerating the small percentage of them that get caught.