I'm originally from Maine, and I just couldnt deal with that much snow/ice/cold weather anymore.You mean you don't enjoy getting a foot of snow in an hour?
Foot of snow in one hour is horrendous....36 inches in 24 hours is insane.
I'm originally from Maine, and I just couldnt deal with that much snow/ice/cold weather anymore.You mean you don't enjoy getting a foot of snow in an hour?
Well gentlemen it appears that there are no more questions so I will be closing this thread, thank you for your time and professionalism. Take care and good luck to all!!!
I have read this entire thread, I have listened and held my tongue... but I just have to say, how many of us on here have "talked tough" on the keyboard? How many of us have actually attempted to do anything such as an MSG, or community outreach? Why is it that when someone comes to us as a guest we have to attempt to shred their ideas, thoughts and beliefs? I don't know if many of you realize it, but there is a whole lot of the same kind of crap going on in this thread that we all ***** and moan about the "anti's" doing to us. I know we have the MSG here in INGO, I enjoy the time I spend with my fellow MSG members, but at the same time, the only thing we have ever done in the almost two years I've been attending meetings is talk, and eat. Now I have no problem shooting the **** with like minded folks, but if we are going to pass ourselves off as an MSG, we better damn sure actually be able to support someone. I've seen people ripping Aaron and Cookie Monster on things such as emergency communications, CERT classes, being able to be "called up" by the governor, etc... but these are the same things that most of the MSG's struggle with. Why is it OK when it's our MSG struggling with these issues, but when another group has the same issues they are "right-wing nut-jobs", extremists, etc..??? What the hell is the difference? As to people pointing to their shiny toys that were purchased with taxpayers money trying to justify their organization over any others I ask why? Why is your group better because you are funded by .gov handouts?
Now, I personally know 2 members of the ISL, and as of last month, I have joined as well. Why did I join? Well, we all talk about "being prepared", but around here in Monroe County, no one seems to want to actually do anything, share much knowledge, actually get out and practice, work out, hone skills, learn new skills, etc.. Now I have no problem if everyone wants to go off and do these things on their own, but it's a real ***** to know what you don't know! I'd also like to have some idea of what training, and schools of thought that the guy's I'm supposed to be supporting others with have, or are used to. I joined the ISL because I see it as more of a Civil Defense organization then a militia. I thought long and hard before I signed up, partially because I didn't want the stigma associated with being in a "militia". After thinking it through, and a little soul searching, I realized that like most things in my life, I simply do not give much of a **** about what anyone else thinks.
Will I ever need the skills I will hopefully be learning in the near future? Who knows. Will I ever have to "be ready in a minute"? I don't know, but I would like to think I could at least be a little more prepared for it than I am now. Will I lose some "friends" and/or respect of other members of INGO because of my choice to join? I don't know, I'd like to think we are a better group of people than that, but I only know a small fraction of the members on here.
Now, having said all of that, if any of you do have any questions as to what the ISL is about/like, I can give you a small peek, as someone you are used to seeing around here.
While I am inclined to stick with family and friends when contemplating disaster preparedness, I am disturbed by the notion that in order to prepare in an organized fashion, a person is somehow required to do so under the auspices of the .gov. As of the last time I checked, freedom of association was still a liberty available to us.
If we were free and liberty was available, why will we as a people be attacked and prosecuted for something as trivial as a "hate-crime"? Why can't we rally for what we want or else we get mowed down by militarized police and liberal media. Why must we live in fear that we can't hold out First Amendment proudly or else we face a judge?
Liberty? Freedom? It doesn't exist. .gov has a hold on your life. You are required to to do specific things every day that promote a government you don't want because anything less will put you in jail. There is just enough freedom to make a different choice within the parameters of THEIR world.
I will be the first to say I am guilty of many, if not all of the things I mentioned in my post. I am not advocating any kind of action, direct or indirect against our government, just want to be as prepared as I can be if everything goes sideways.
We are on the same page. My point is that freedom of association hasn't been attacked, at least not effectively, yet. I agree with you that liberty in the general sense has largely been consigned to the history books.
Exactly. My guess is that by the time SHTF gets to us, the .gov will already be defunct, or at least absolutely ineffective outside from defending the 'important people' in their bunkers, and the rest of us will be facing anarchy in its worst form.
well how do you propose to do it oh wise one? I've met my local reps, or at least half of them... and what, pray tell have you done? if you don't want to be proactive, that is by all means your choice, but why besmirch those that choose to be active? is it to make you feel better about your inaction? to help you justify your lacadazical attitude toward your country, your state, your community?
I'm all for participating in keeping liberty alive in this society. I do it by continually educating myself and others about the 'truth'. My point about joining a militia full of folks you don't know, is be very careful of who you are associating yourself with. You don't know when some character is going to do or say something stupid and get you implicated in something you don't want to be a part of. If you know the folks well enough, then by all means join. However, the past has shown that these groups can be set up to lead well intentioned folks into dark places.
With whom are you agreeing?agreed