"I'd like to see every gun in Marion Co. have a lock on it"

[phylodog]

The Sheriff needs something to spend all of the money on, may as well be free gun locks. After all, the consolidation of MCSD and IPD was done to save money and eliminate the duplication of services yet after giving away the financial responsibility for 400 men he never took a reduction in his budget, instead he asked for a larger one and it was given to him. The Sheriff has so much money he has started rebuilding his law enforcement division even though he has no jurisdictional responsibilities. He's just sending "officers" out into the streets in marked cars to do whatever their "extensive" training and experience leads them to do. It's awesome.

 

[SemperFiUSMC]

The point is that the office of Sheriff is an elected position and I certainly wouldn't want to lend my future support or vote to anyone that says they wish every gun in the county had a lock on it. After all, it is the American way.

Can't disagree with a single word you said.

js, the problem is that we have our employees telling us how our property should be stored.

It's none of the Sheriff's business and he needs to start acting like a servant and not the boss.

I don't see it as that cut and dry Kirk. Substitute bycycles and helments for guns and locks for a moment. I see this situation as the Sheriff saying he wished all bicycle riders would wear helmets while handing out free helmets. Would he be announcing policy that would ticket bicyclists that don't wear helments? No. Would bicyclists get in an uproar because he was giving away free helmets? Some might. Would they be silly? Yes, unless you were one of them.

He wasn't announcing policy or a legislative agenda. He was offering gun locks to people who might want them and opining on their value.

I don't think you lose your First Amendment right to free speech when you run for office. He thinks free locks are valuable. I don't, except that I made a shell deflecter for an AR out of a Ruger lock once.

 

[Jack Ryan]

which is why you felt the need to quote me, right because you dont think you are better than i am

He's just a better mind reader than you. He can tell what you are thinking. Next some one will tell you what you meant to say.

 

[rambone]

I just tracked down the source of this "free" stuff, which is Federal grant money being thrown away since the Bush era.

PLEASE stop calling socialist giveaways "free."

Project ChildSafe - Putting a lock on safety in your community

 

[henktermaat]

Perhaps they'd get better results selling those fingerprint bedside lockboxes. I'd go down and claim one then.

 

[littletommy]

I love the locks that Ruger ships with their revolvers, and they work great, too. I have one on my shed door, and one on my toolbox at work.

 

[Corky]

I gave one of the "free" gun locks to my cousin. He uses it to lock the coupler on his boat trailer.

 

[goinggreyfast]

"There's your sign"

 

[qonorio]

I use the gun locks to lock my helmet to my motorcycle. They also are good for plastic trunks.

 

[ThrottleJockey]

I've got a big box of them from guns I've purchased. Still haven't found a good use for any of them but you guys are giving me some good ideas...keep 'em coming.

 

[Leadeye]

Sounds like more posturing and noise from leadership.

 

[Destro]

He wasn't announcing policy or a legislative agenda. He was offering gun locks to people who might want them and opining on their value.

Well at least somebody got the context of the story....If people took responsibility and properly secured their stuff...gun owners would have a bad name when crooks come up with stolen guns.

Heaven forbid the sheriff expresses his opinion that the safe handling and storage of firearms, especially around children, is important. In that context I would like to see all guns locked away too…

 

[mcolford]

Truthfully, I think its a decent gesture. I keep locks on the guns in my house that arent kept readily available for home protection or my Glock, as I carry it.

As mentioned, as long as they arent going to make locks mandatory, Im all for folks securing the weapons they want to secure a little more.

-MColford

 

[88GT]

Well at least somebody got the context of the story....If people took responsibility and properly secured their stuff...gun owners would have a bad name when crooks come up with stolen guns.

Heaven forbid the sheriff expresses his opinion that the safe handling and storage of firearms, especially around children, is important. In that context I would like to see all guns locked away too…

Blame the victim again? Really! It's a gun owner's fault that a thief trespasses, illegally enters a home through force (probably destroying property while he's at it), and makes off with some firearms that weren't locked up in a safe?

Is it the home owner's fault if a television, stereo, or computer is also stolen? I suppose the wife was asking for it if the same thief decides to rape her while he's in the home. I mean, she wasn't locked up after all.

What an unbelievably stupid thought process.

Let's get a few things straight: there is a difference a country mile wide between firearms secured and firearms locked up in a safe, the sheriff is attempting to equate the former with the latter, and some of us still clearly don't understand the concept of freedom.

 

[E5RANGER375]

he also said when not being used in a legal capacity (paraphrasing). you guys are running with nothing here and trying to cause panic for nothing. I didnt get the feeling at all that he was being anti-gun.

 

[ThrottleJockey]

Well at least somebody got the context of the story....If people took responsibility and properly secured their stuff...gun owners would have a bad name when crooks come up with stolen guns.

Heaven forbid the sheriff expresses his opinion that the safe handling and storage of firearms, especially around children, is important. In that context I would like to see all guns locked away too…

Red part: Huh?
Blue part: It's fine that he has an opinion no matter how ignorant and misinformed it is. Having locks on guns has nothing to do with safe handling or storage, but rather the opposite effect in regard to children. It is a form of hiding and ignoring the issue of safety rather than educating. The sheriff likely comes across as some sort of hero to the ignorant kool-aid drinking sheep, but I see a complete fool when I hear his remarks.

 

[88GT]

he also said when not being used in a legal capacity (paraphrasing). you guys are running with nothing here and trying to cause panic for nothing. I didnt get the feeling at all that he was being anti-gun.

Every firearm I own is still being used in a "legal capacity" whether it's on my body, in the safe, or broken down for cleaning.

 

[jsharmon7]

he also said when not being used in a legal capacity (paraphrasing). you guys are running with nothing here and trying to cause panic for nothing. I didnt get the feeling at all that he was being anti-gun.

I think there is a fine line between vigilance and paranoia. I understand the idea of a "slippery slope" when politicians make these statements, but I don't think that's a concern here. I'm fine with them making statements regarding secure firearms, just not proposing laws about it.

 

[Destro]

Red part: Huh?
Blue part: It's fine that he has an opinion no matter how ignorant and misinformed it is. Having locks on guns has nothing to do with safe handling or storage, but rather the opposite effect in regard to children. It is a form of hiding and ignoring the issue of safety rather than educating. The sheriff likely comes across as some sort of hero to the ignorant kool-aid drinking sheep, but I see a complete fool when I hear his remarks.

If you own something, and then have it taken from you, it is your fault and nobody elses. If in your mind you did the best to secure your property, and it was still taken from you, it obviously was not secure...weapons or otherwise.

I would like to see all guns in my county stored in a secure manner when not in use myself.

Can you picture the outrage if the sheriff had said that "Yeah there are gun locks at Riley Childrens Hospital for free, but gun locks are for the ignorant in misinformed. If you secure your guns it has the opposite effect of keeping children safe"

Is child fingerprinting a government conspiricy to circumvent the 4th ammendment too?

 

[88GT]

If you own something, and then have it taken from you, it is your fault and nobody elses. If in your mind you did the best to secure your property, and it was still taken from you, it obviously was not secure...weapons or otherwise.

Stupid doesn't even begin to cut it with this thought process.