Oh you won't hear me argue that....Agreed. Although I think majority of the benefits of this ^ generally outweigh the negatives.
Oh you won't hear me argue that....Agreed. Although I think majority of the benefits of this ^ generally outweigh the negatives.
It's about ego. If one goes to school, one may have admit that he does not know it all.
Classes | Kodiak Firing Range & Training Facility, Inc
Very good training and not out of sight price.
Instructor Norm Hood.
Special forces
Alaska State trooper
Very easy going.
Find time for one three-day or a couple two-day handgun courses every year and you'll quickly have more hours of formal range instruction in the use of the pistol than most .mil or LEO.I've seen a lot of military and LEO blasting the ceilings and floors of my local indoor range and those folks are "professionals"
I do think bashing folks who haven't paid for a class to be a bit elitist though.
Military in GENERAL, perhaps. That encompasses a LOT of MOS's. Let's face it, if they work in an office they don't need to be familiar with a pistol. A combat MOS, and this is hardly the case (at least for military.) LEO is another story all together, but as for military they get quite a bit of instruction if it pertains to their MOS. Well, maybe not a LOT of "instruction," in all cases but certainly a LOT of range time to get their skills down. We'd sling so many rounds down range in a given week that we'd almost get sick of shooting. I loved the practice for free, but a lot of guys would end up "dumping" live rounds out on the ground or figure up some way to get rid of them without having to shoot them all. I didn't care for this practice myself because I wanted the range time, but it's all about muscle memory.Find time for one three-day or a couple two-day handgun courses every year and you'll quickly have more hours of formal range instruction in the use of the pistol than most .mil or LEO.
Outside of SOCOM units in a pre-deployment workup, how much of that range time was with a pistol?A combat MOS, and this is hardly the case (at least for military.) LEO is another story all together, but as for military they get quite a bit of instruction if it pertains to their MOS. Well, maybe not a LOT of "instruction," in all cases but certainly a LOT of range time to get their skills down. We'd sling so many rounds down range in a given week that we'd almost get sick of shooting.
It's certainly lopsided towards the primary weapon, but they still get quite a bit more trigger time behind a pistol than an average range going citizen. Generally, rifles were a couple times a week and pistols would range from once a week to a couple times a month depending on your command and other training necessities.Outside of SOCOM units in a pre-deployment workup, how much of that range time was with a pistol?
...they still get quite a bit more trigger time behind a pistol than an average range going citizen.
Agreed, ASSUMING this $400 class is actually going to make them a better shooter than simply getting to a range and practicingDoesn't everybody?
This thread is supposed to be encouraging folks to be above-average range-going citizens, no?
Agreed, ASSUMING this $400 class is actually going to make them a better shooter than simply getting to a range and practicing
AgreedLike I said upthread, the class just teaches the skill, it's up to the student to learn and practice it.
People can go to the range and practice all their lives and never get better. (...and, of course, people can go to a bad class and pay good money to spend a weekend pumping lead into the berm without learning anything. There's a lot of caveat emptor in the training industry.)
Like I said upthread, the class just teaches the skill, it's up to the student to learn and practice it.
People can go to the range and practice all their lives and never get better. (...and, of course, people can go to a bad class and pay good money to spend a weekend pumping lead into the berm without learning anything. There's a lot of caveat emptor in the training industry.)